17MB AVI File-
http://jtaylor.u24.hosting.thr...1.AVI

4MB AVI File-
http://jtaylor.u24.hosting.thr...4.avi

Straight from John, "350whp @ 12psi, 430whp @ 18psi, ~450whp @ 20psi,
575's & an AFC"

I have another 4 videos as well.

*Just added- 9MB street video
http://jtaylor.u24.hosting.thr...3.AVI
He let off 2nd gear at ~65mph...


Modified by Nihilation at 12:28 AM 3/22/2004

 

awesome, thanks

 

did that guy have to be eating while making the vid?

 

Yeah its kinda hard to hear him and I was the other person in the video talking to Jon (the one eating and owner of Inline Pro).. He is a really cool and showed us everything about that S2000 which is a awsome car.. The kit is even better in person..
Kevin

 

i agree, did he have to eat while making the video? looks very cheap and unclassy. pretty rude i would say. anyways, nice car tho. what would his 1/4 time be with all that whp?

 

who cars if hes eating...that car is sick...hes crazy though for not having any engine managment other that the vafc ...time to aem ems and he could b making more that 350 at 12psi....and one more thing are his internals totally stock besides the injectors??? how much does the kit go for??

 

thanks for vid

 

That second video is pretty sick, I'd like a video of that thing on the highway or atleast more street time, how much is the kit gonna run?

 

New video added, check first post.

 

good god

 

 

if you can get a clip on the highway or a shot of the road, that will be awesome! nice vid anyways..

 

In all honesty i dont beleive a word about this set up. Lets sit back and think here.
12psi of boost and JUST a vafc. uh uh i aint buying it.yea i think the car is sick lighting up the tires in that video, but how are you going to pull back ignition timing.vafc just wont cut it ...just one word (boom) bye bye motor. honestly anything other than 7psi with out a standalone is insane.especially at 18 and 20 psi...c'mon.Its not to bring anyone down, cause the seems quick, but IMHO i dont beleive the whole 350 rwhp on 12 psi with no standalone. I ve seen an s2000 pull 328 rwhp on just 9 psi, however he did have the A.E.M E.M.S. If you ask me, i dont believe it......ESPECIALLY on stock internals. even though it has a head gasket to drop the compression i am sorry but i doubt it will hack anything more than 9 psi with out a standalone

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In all honesty i dont beleive a word about this set up. Lets sit back and think here.
12psi of boost and JUST a vafc. uh uh i aint buying it.yea i think the car is sick lighting up the tires in that video, but how are you going to pull back ignition timing.vafc just wont cut it ...just one word (boom) bye bye motor. honestly anything other than 7psi with out a standalone is insane.especially at 18 and 20 psi...c'mon.Its not to bring anyone down, cause the seems quick, but IMHO i dont beleive the whole 350 rwhp on 12 psi with no standalone. I ve seen an s2000 pull 328 rwhp on just 9 psi, however he did have the A.E.M E.M.S. If you ask me, i dont believe it......ESPECIALLY on stock internals. even though it has a head gasket to drop the compression i am sorry but i doubt it will hack anything more than 9 psi with out a standalone </TD></TR></TABLE>

Umm....I know the owner of the shop pretty well and have seen the car in person and everything done to it. How can 12psi be impossible? There are tons of people running 12-15 on B-motors with just AFC and bigger injectors. This S has 550cc injectors AFC and fuel pump if you didnt know. It was tuned on the in house dynojet and he beats the car everyday. And yes it is all stock internals(S2000 has forged pistons stock BTW). You think he would put out a kit and not be able to stand behind it? Visit there website and look at all there accomplishments and see why they wouldn't risk there reputation to put out a shotty kit. Still dont believe, give John a call at the shop call at 703-644-1788 and ask away.

 

i believe it my buddy had 525hp out of a civic with a Vafc... only a handful of people can do it.. you really have to know how to tune!

 

John @ InlinePRO

 

that guy should shove that hotdog up his ***...

he has a bolbous head

 

yes i've heard of 12-15 psi on b series motors with just an afc but guess what...NOT on stock internals.For all you brains who know it all about tunning, a afc wont cut it, YOU CANOT RETARD IGNITION TIMING WITH AN AFC.And by the way...afc controls only fuel you cannot control injector size with an afc, what is used to control the injectors...let me guess the passion of christ.anything after 12 psi will blow, even with a thicker head gasket. the compresson is 11:1, even if the headgasket drops the compression.If that the case people would'nt build there block, forget about thats lets just all buy thicker head gaskets and put 720cc injectors and run 30 psi and maybe we'll do 700 rwhp....ON STOCK INTERNALS.

but hey thanks for trying, have a nice day you've all been great


Modified by 01ITR at 7:06 PM 3/25/2004


Modified by 01ITR at 7:18 PM 3/25/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CD5sam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that guy should shove that hotdog up his ***...

he has a bolbous head</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, that really added to the conversation.

 

i am bot the only one who thinks this is bs check it out

https://honda-tech.com/zero...88343

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am bot the only one who thinks this is bs check it out

https://honda-tech.com/zero...88343


</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you want to be a troll, don't expect to stay here very much longer.

 

That car sounds awesome, I love it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In all honesty i dont beleive a word about this set up. Lets sit back and think here.
12psi of boost and JUST a vafc. uh uh i aint buying it.yea i think the car is sick lighting up the tires in that video, but how are you going to pull back ignition timing. The VFAC just wont cut it ...just one word (boom) bye bye motor. honestly anything other than 7psi with out a standalone is insane.especially at 18 and 20 psi...c'mon.Its not to bring anyone down, cause the seems quick, but IMHO i dont beleive the whole 350 rwhp on 12 psi with no standalone. I ve seen an s2000 pull 328 rwhp on just 9 psi, however he did have the A.E.M E.M.S. If you ask me, i dont believe it......ESPECIALLY on stock internals. even though it has a head gasket to drop the compression i am sorry but i doubt it will hack anything more than 9 psi with out a standalone </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just FYI... I am the guy that has the S2000 that was commented earlier.

In my experience, and I have been working on this car and my setup for over a year now that I can safely run up to 12psi on race gas and the ignition retarded down to 14 degrees at redline (midrange at 30 degrees then slowly dropping to 13 at redline). I tested running stock ignition settings and I got knock when I would get around to 8psi @ 8000rpm. Now I am *not* using a head gasket to drop my compression, so that is probably the determining factor between mine and Inline Pro's.

The compression drop will help up to 12psi, but not 20. The setup I had I accidentally hit (boost creep problem) 23psi and started knocking (on race gas) at 7500rpm @ 16psi. Luckily the EMS retarded my timing all the way down to 3 degree's to keep the knock under control before I was able to get off the gas (thank goodness). Since the dyno video I put out on the net, I have added a NX 35 Wet Shot on there to A. help with launching and B. to keep my EGT's down.

I donÂ’t doubt that there is someone that will be able to produce the numbers he is mentioning, but in the same respect without a standalone you are shooting in the dark. You have no idea if you are getting any moderate knock, or if the stock ECU is retarding timing when it registers knock. If it is infact doing that, donÂ’t expect your motor to last very long, every time it knocks damage is done.

The F20c does have forged pistons, and in all honesty it is a damn tough block. I have put it though hell and back and the only incident I have had is when I over boosted causing a small scar on the #3 cylinder wall.

The only thing that I have a question is what Inlinepro is going to do when a customer buys this kit with the impression he can slap it on and go. There are going to be driveline issues that have to be delt with or there can be some very expensive consequences.

I really just stick by my word that if you are going to boost anything higher than 7psi or so, get a standalone and a wideband 02 sensor (preferably with a display). If InlinePro pulls this off, then good for them, but I just think that people are going to be blowing up alot of motors due to improper tuning.

Again, just my .02c

B.

http://www.houseofbud.com/S2kDynoRun.wmv

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> yes i've heard of 12-15 psi on b series motors with just an afc but guess what...NOT on stock internals.For all you brains who know it all about tunning, a afc wont cut it, YOU CANOT RETARD IGNITION TIMING WITH AN AFC.And by the way...afc controls only fuel you cannot control injector size with an afc, what is used to control the injectors...let me guess the passion of christ.anything after 12 psi will blow, even with a thicker head gasket. the compresson is 11:1, even if the headgasket drops the compression.If that the case people would'nt build there block, forget about thats lets just all buy thicker head gaskets and put 720cc injectors and run 30 psi and maybe we'll do 700 rwhp....ON STOCK INTERNALS.

but hey thanks for trying, have a nice day you've all been great


Modified by 01ITR at 7:06 PM 3/25/2004


Modified by 01ITR at 7:18 PM 3/25/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just to let you know, I ran 13psi on stock internals and a blitz 3mm headgasket on my GS-R for over 1 year without any problems.

 

my next car is gonna be a s2000 turbo ..