What exactly did Honda add to the CR for "body strengthening" as every review calls it?

Is the no sounds deadening correct? Is the steering noticeable quicker or better? Still don't know if it'd be better to get just a normal S2000 if I plan on changing wheels/tires and maybe other stuff anyways.

 

^ really dude with 6k posts your going to ask this?

ill keep it simple if your planing to mod your car esp suspension wise paying extra for the cr is not worth it

 

Yes, I don't live on the Tech Forums anymore. I also don't follow Honda too much either. So, yes my tech question is appropriate here.

I really just needed to talk myself out of the CR.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...h-revving_hero

 

Yes, you probably should.

 

Most ppl dont really appreciate the CR until they actually drive one. the upgrades are subtle but it definitely sets it apart from the stock s2k...by a long shot if you ask me. if you're going to mod the s2k, might as well get a stock s2k but upgrading parts on a stock s2k to handle and perform better than the CR will be quite expensive.

im missing the details but in short, the CR has thicker sway bars, stiffer dampers and springs, interior and exterior upgrades that were developed with "running at the track" in mind, and a shorter steering ratio. Plus the hardtop, tonneau cover, etc which cost a good chunk of change if you're trying to buy those peices separately.

Anyhow, i do own a CR myself and plan on swapping out the suspension to achieve a lower stance but its difficult shopping for a setup that'll surpass the CR's suspension setup in performance. i have two friends with 04 up s2ks, one with buddyclub coilovers and the other with t1r coilovers and honestly, the ride quality is bleh. The CR's suspension is real stiff, well for stock its really stiff. i feel honda found a good balance designing the CR. plus, its such a solid foundation to begin with if youre gonna go modding. anyhow, thats my .02, i love this car to death!

 

Did you use to own a CW integra type R with a k20a and regamasters a few years back?

 

The upgrades are subtle but all around it's a pretty nice improvement if you drive it hard. I believe the main upgrades are a thicker torsion bar and the stiffer shock/spring setup.

 

BUT you can have an AP2 that handles the same as a CR with $3500 in parts.

Suspension for about $1300 (new)
Sways for about $250 (new)
Steering rack for about $400 (used)
Rack stiffeners for $70 (new)
Chassis brace for $140 (new)
Wing $700 (new)
Lip $500 (new)

 

what u guys r forgetting the cr is basically an 00-01ap1 with a hardtop granted the spring rates on the cr r even stiffer than the those of the 00-01ap1 but they have the same steering rack same sway bars only other thing is the cr has some kinda reinforcement bar that runs across the back of the car where the soft top would sit. in all honesty if you plan of dumping the car just get an ap1 so much cheaper than anything else. but if your gona keep the car bone stock then go for the cr although i think most will agree with me on this the cr does look obnoxious with all that areo at stock ride hight

 

Different sway bars, different engine, different transmission, etc

It is more like an AP2, because that's what it is based off of. The AP1 only has the steering rack. Other than that it is completely different.

 

Did you guys get the Type S? it's a bit JDM, but i think it's basically the same as the CR??

Specs:

Quicker steering ratio of 13.8:1 (compared to 14.9:1) Steering goes from 2.6 to 2.4 lock to lock
Added steering gear box stiffeners
Sport muffler - tuned for sound
Coil springs - Fronts stiffer by 37%, rears stiffer by 17% than normal 2008 S2k
Mono-tube, gas-pressurized dampers - Frot increased 50%, rear increased 32% more than normal 2008 S2k
Rear body brace where soft top used to fold
Rear tires are 255 width Ultra-high performance Bridgestone RE070 tires, 215/45R17 front and 255/40R17 rear
Cloth high-grip fabric seating surfaces with synthetic suede trim
Seat foam conforms more to the occupant for an enhanced fit
Instrument panel includes a "peak-power indicator." When the engine is operating at peak power, a round, green light illuminates to the right of the digital speedometer
Spherical aluminum shift **** rests 12.6 mm lower for a 6 percent reduction in shift stroke compared to the regular S2000 ****
Shift load effort increased by 10 percent for even more direct feedback when engaging a gear
Floor mats have a yellow S2000 logo
Carbon-fiber look interior trim pieces, including radio door and center console

Aerodynamic body kit for reduced coefficient of lift (Cl) by 70-80% and improved balance
Kit includes an underbody front spoiler and a rear wing
Removable black aluminum hardtop - There is no soft top
The contour of the roof is designed to influence aerodynamics at the rear of the vehicle
Cowlings sit behind the roll bars and were aerodynamically designed to work with the rear wing
Radio and air conditioning are factory options
There is no spare tire or jack, instead there is a tire sealant repair kit
No sound insulation materials in the floor, tunnel, hood and trunk

 

I was speaking more terms of suspension without trying to get into the full spec list and differences between 00/03 03/04 04/06 and the cr

 

sounds just like the CR. im not sure the differences bt type-s and cr tho. ur forgetting the black S and CR badges

 

And yellow stitched steering wheel and shift boot

 

Yes that was me.

I'm just going to look into a stock AP2, all the CR stuff would be changed/upgraded later anyway.

 

If you can afford either comfortably and plan to keep it for a long time, I'd suggest the CR if it's not TOO overboard on price. It'll retain value better just for having the CR badge. A lot of people don't factor in the fact that the S2000 will become rare as time goes by. Just look at the number of wrecked, stolen, or otherwise total'd s2k's out there and you'll see that the "trend" points to the S2k being a rarity in the near-future.

 

dagle has a point

 

yea dagle you have a point.

 

Not the price that bothers me. It's the modding. Changing out everything that makes a CR, a CR. Unless the Badges alone retain the value.

 

not the badges, the chassis number - depends on how long you plan on keeping it and how much you wanna rip it apart. If you're leaving it fairly stock, then go the CR, but if you wanna mod heavily and then sell the car on in a few years, it would be madness to get the CR as they will only hold value if stock