Buying a Turbo S2000. Risky business??
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Found a 2000 S2000 with 50,000 original miles. He said, hes driven less than 500 miles after the engine rebuilt. He got married and does not have the time or money to play with it.He's in the air force and just got stationed to Ft. Drum. He's asking 12,000.00 for it. Do you guys think this is a good deal?
Here are the list of mods he gave me:
Mods
HKS Hi-Power exhaust
AEM EMS 2000
Inline Pro gt3076r turbo kit 5000
ACT 6-puck clutch 1200
Turbo xs dual stage Boost Controller
Walbro 255 fuel pump
ID 1000 cc injectors
Driveshaft shop Stage 2 Axles 700
4 bar map sensor
AEM Wideband
AEM Boost Gauge
Motor Stuff 4000
CP Piston set and rings
Crower Rods
Golden Eagle HD Sleeves
ACL Race Bearings
Crank Polish
Supertech Valves/Springs/Retainers
New Head Internals
Found a 2000 S2000 with 50,000 original miles. He said, hes driven less than 500 miles after the engine rebuilt. He got married and does not have the time or money to play with it.He's in the air force and just got stationed to Ft. Drum. He's asking 12,000.00 for it. Do you guys think this is a good deal?
Here are the list of mods he gave me:
Mods
HKS Hi-Power exhaust
AEM EMS 2000
Inline Pro gt3076r turbo kit 5000
ACT 6-puck clutch 1200
Turbo xs dual stage Boost Controller
Walbro 255 fuel pump
ID 1000 cc injectors
Driveshaft shop Stage 2 Axles 700
4 bar map sensor
AEM Wideband
AEM Boost Gauge
Motor Stuff 4000
CP Piston set and rings
Crower Rods
Golden Eagle HD Sleeves
ACL Race Bearings
Crank Polish
Supertech Valves/Springs/Retainers
New Head Internals
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what if its a legit deal and everything looks good when i go check it out. What should i be looking for in the engine department and turbo?
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take it to a mechanic or run a compression check and look for leaks. see how it drives.
you never know about deals. most are too good to be true but there's some real deals at times.
you never know about deals. most are too good to be true but there's some real deals at times.
If the components are there, low compression is the least of your worries. That motor costs probably 4g's to build. I would jump on that deal in a heartbeat, but then again I can inspect it competently.
Sounds like a great deal! I would first find out who actually built the motor, and talk to them directly. Do the same for the person who tuned it... You will also wanna do all the normal checks for turbo cars... Oil pressure, level, and color. Check the plugs, do a compression test. Pull the filter off and see if there is any shaft play on the turbo, chipped/bent fins or anything like that.
If you know this info, post it here. Maybe we know the shop or person.
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How far away is he from your location? With the car supposedly having a new bottom end I would ask nothing less of him to turn the boost up and showing me that it actually runs like it should. You can rack up a $12k bill with a sleeved bottom end and turbo/supporting mods with no problem believe me. Let alone being on a car that will sell for that price without the mods given the mileage it has. If all of that really is legit you would be foolish not to buy it lol
How far away is he from your location? With the car supposedly having a new bottom end I would ask nothing less of him to turn the boost up and showing me that it actually runs like it should. You can rack up a $12k bill with a sleeved bottom end and turbo/supporting mods with no problem believe me. Let alone being on a car that will sell for that price without the mods given the mileage it has. If all of that really is legit you would be foolish not to buy it lol
My friend bought his turbo civic from a stranger, but because it was verified by a few shops I told him he'd be a fool not to go for it. He lucked out on that one because it was a great deal too. We definitely saw our share of shady builds though.
Sounds like a great deal! I would first find out who actually built the motor, and talk to them directly. Do the same for the person who tuned it... You will also wanna do all the normal checks for turbo cars... Oil pressure, level, and color. Check the plugs, do a compression test. Pull the filter off and see if there is any shaft play on the turbo, chipped/bent fins or anything like that.
If you know this info, post it here. Maybe we know the shop or person.
If you know this info, post it here. Maybe we know the shop or person.
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Owner said it needs to be tune for daily driving since it drains a lot of gas on the current tune. Does this sound like a major problem?
wait? why would it run more rich if it was for a week end car? Running rich will wash cylinder walls and they will scratch. If its a week end or daily, you want it to run stotch. Im just going to take a wild guess and say the tune SUCKS. Do you know who tuned it and was it on a dyno?
wait? why would it run more rich if it was for a week end car? Running rich will wash cylinder walls and they will scratch. If its a week end or daily, you want it to run stotch. Im just going to take a wild guess and say the tune SUCKS. Do you know who tuned it and was it on a dyno?
DEFINITELY find out where and who built this thing and where it was tuned (if really at all).
Otherwise you are walking into 12 grand worth of waste-of-your-time.
The seller actually sounds like he's being as honest as he can. If it's running too rich (rich enough for wet-detonation), it would have showed on the wideband during the tune I'm pretty sure. Not sure about how the AEM works, but there would have to have been something to indicate a problem.
Advice to the OP: I'd say take it to the nearest reputable performance shop to the place and have them run an inspection. It shouldn't cost more than 150$ and they'll be able to tell you if it looks conceivably normal.
I will say though that it wouldn't be too surprising to me if gas mileage was notably hindered by the setup. I ran a GT3076R before and it easily built boost by 3k, I babied the **** out of mine to get decent gas mileage whereas I've got 30+MPG before on my other stock s2k. If it idle's normal with no audible knock and all components are there, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. But before you buy it, you have to recognize that there may be additional costs that you don't see now. If this is the absolute edge of your budget, I wouldn't suggest it.
Advice to the OP: I'd say take it to the nearest reputable performance shop to the place and have them run an inspection. It shouldn't cost more than 150$ and they'll be able to tell you if it looks conceivably normal.
I will say though that it wouldn't be too surprising to me if gas mileage was notably hindered by the setup. I ran a GT3076R before and it easily built boost by 3k, I babied the **** out of mine to get decent gas mileage whereas I've got 30+MPG before on my other stock s2k. If it idle's normal with no audible knock and all components are there, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. But before you buy it, you have to recognize that there may be additional costs that you don't see now. If this is the absolute edge of your budget, I wouldn't suggest it.
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His wife just emailed and the husband is trying to get all the paper work together. She said, he got it done at Humble Performance in Tulsa, OK. Does anyone know how reputable that shop is?
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update:
the car was running a turbo setup and blew the motor. He took it to Humble Performance in Tulsa, OK to get a fully built motor assemble and installed. It was tuned by Humble Performance, not sure who was the tuner.
the car was running a turbo setup and blew the motor. He took it to Humble Performance in Tulsa, OK to get a fully built motor assemble and installed. It was tuned by Humble Performance, not sure who was the tuner.
Here's my .02 that hasn't been mentioned yet...
On the test drive, with the current owner driving, make sure he is HARD on it. If she's going to break the first time you beat on it because the engine wasn't assembled properly or because something is wrong with it, let it be on his dime.
The first time I bought a modified built-engine-turbo car, the owner was really easy on it during the test drive. I bought it, drove it for 3 days, and it developed a rod knock. I pull the pan down to see that the car had recently thrown a rod, damaged the crankshaft, and the owner literally had a local shop slap new bearings in it and put it back together just to sell it to me. It sucked. Make sure it doesn't happen to you!
On the test drive, with the current owner driving, make sure he is HARD on it. If she's going to break the first time you beat on it because the engine wasn't assembled properly or because something is wrong with it, let it be on his dime.
The first time I bought a modified built-engine-turbo car, the owner was really easy on it during the test drive. I bought it, drove it for 3 days, and it developed a rod knock. I pull the pan down to see that the car had recently thrown a rod, damaged the crankshaft, and the owner literally had a local shop slap new bearings in it and put it back together just to sell it to me. It sucked. Make sure it doesn't happen to you!
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