hah yea im 19 aswell and bought mine almost a year ago ..but yea i see so many ppl goin to my honda dealership and getthin their stuff fixed under warranty all the time

 

im 19 with an 05 s2k hard work pays off

 

so how did it break?

 

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freakin seriously. i wanna know. btw did you ever get your shirt frank?

 

it broke doing 5500 rpm launches. then clank clank clank...

 

what do you think i should do? should i put aftermarket parts like 4.56 final drive (Rick's) or put the stock oem honda parts back in?

 

i would just upgrade, its gunna run you the same or more for oem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lsos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whether it broke while driving to church or it broke doing a 9000rpm clutch drop...it still broke under normal operating conditions as far as I am concerned. If the engine can put out a certain amount of torque at a certain rpm, the drive train components should have been designed to deal with it. The transmission was, the axles were, but the differential wasn't. I thought this was common knowledge.

Whether the dealer will or will not cover it, don't say it's this guy's fault for breaking his differential. It's Honda's fault for dropping the ball during the design process...and people generally buy their cars because they are known NOT to do this. If he knew this was a common problem, he should take some of the blame, but we should not shift it away from the original cause.

The S2000 is supposed to be a Honda, not a Subaru or Mitsubishi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

/end thread

 

lets not just yet...

&lt;--- one more post.. rofl

 

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This is why I dont feel sorry for him...

 

feel sorry for me! i comptech reinforced + thermal cycle'd (cryogen + heat cycle) my gear...

no launches or clutch drops, only 5000 miles and my diff went boom when i downshifted to 2nd and hammered it to go around a ****** moron on a cellphone in a turn. he was in the outer turn lane, turning into me, i had to slam on my brakes mid turn to avoid collision.

expletive that shiz.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tsanhd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im 19 with an 05 s2k hard work pays off </TD></TR></TABLE>So does living at home

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lsos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whether it broke while driving to church or it broke doing a 9000rpm clutch drop...it still broke under normal operating conditions as far as I am concerned. If the engine can put out a certain amount of torque at a certain rpm, the drive train components should have been designed to deal with it. The transmission was, the axles were, but the differential wasn't. I thought this was common knowledge.

Whether the dealer will or will not cover it, don't say it's this guy's fault for breaking his differential. It's Honda's fault for dropping the ball during the design process...and people generally buy their cars because they are known NOT to do this. If he knew this was a common problem, he should take some of the blame, but we should not shift it away from the original cause.

The S2000 is supposed to be a Honda, not a Subaru or Mitsubishi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

9000 RPM clutch drops are far from "Normal operating conditions" drivelines and axles are built to handle so much TQ by design, the s2000, much like EVO and STI have transmissions built to handle all the tourqe and HP they put out, thats not the problem. Its when you "Shock load" the driveline instantly by dropping the hammer at 6k-9k thats when you run into the joy of physics.

Since the S2k is not a drag car by design, honda did not design the driveline to handle huge shock loads from heavy launches, its design to be run at high RPM for long periods of time under less driveline stessfull road racing, the same goes for EVO's and STI's, drive the car past its design limits and **** will break.

There is a reason Turbo-400's and C4's transmissions are hot **** in the domestic drag racing world, they are designed to take drag racing shock launches and keep ticking day after day, but quess what? they burn up reeeaalll fast in extended road racing, becuase thats not what they where designed to do. Unless you shell out the bucks, you cant have your cake and eat it too.

If your hoping to find a stock high performance car made to hold up to blatant abuse at stock HP levels and not break then give me a call when you find one, becuase i'd love to buy.

 

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9000 RPM clutch drops are far from "Normal operating conditions" drivelines and axles are built to handle so much TQ by design, the s2000, much like EVO and STI have transmissions built to handle all the tourqe and HP they put out, thats not the problem. Its when you "Shock load" the driveline instantly by dropping the hammer at 6k-9k thats when you run into the joy of physics.

Since the S2k is not a drag car by design, honda did not design the driveline to handle huge shock loads from heavy launches, its design to be run at high RPM for long periods of time under less driveline stessfull road racing, the same goes for EVO's and STI's, drive the car past its design limits and **** will break.

There is a reason Turbo-400's and C4's transmissions are hot **** in the domestic drag racing world, they are designed to take drag racing shock launches and keep ticking day after day, but quess what? they burn up reeeaalll fast in extended road racing, becuase thats not what they where designed to do. Unless you shell out the bucks, you cant have your cake and eat it too.

If your hoping to find a stock high performance car made to hold up to blatant abuse at stock HP levels and not break then give me a call when you find one, becuase i'd love to buy. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I see your point and it makes sense...but, I had no problem shock loading my b16 when it was in the CRX back in the day...hundreds of times at the drag strip. And that was an old junkyard engine/ transmission. It's why they usually design the parts subjected to shock loading 5-10x stronger than they need to be. Again, why is it that the other drive train components can handle it?

Curious question, as I honestly don't know. I understand they upgraded the differential in '03 or '04. Do the upgraded ones still tend to break?

 

this is my fear in buying a used one. it will drive fine when i get it. but because of previous abuse a few hundred miles down the road it will go out...

 

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This is why I dont feel sorry for him...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why because he launched his car at 5500 rpm.....that pretty much the point of where you need to launch the car...thats if you race it.....im sure there are ppl who launch their at the same or even worse than that and their cars diff still works

 

TEF G

Do you think that Honda wants to encourage that driving behavior? That why they call that stuff user abuse. Its just like over clocking a computer... your able to do it but if your **** breaks its your fault because you pushed your hardware.

 

There is too many points to this subject.....I mean the car was built to be driven aggressively and then theres too much abuse....i guess drive it the way you want and if **** breaks fix it