i have a major issue---my car is burning up the spark plugs---i can have it run for 1 day and nxt day....it wont start..it'll crank but won't turn over....i go out and take the spark plugs and they're all fouled black----before this-it was very wet---gas---but could it be the head gasket going bad??? or fuel injectors pushing too much fuel and not enuff air??? i need help asap so i can get my car out of the cold--and into the garage..i'm sitting my *** in the cold trying to figure this outl...anyone have a clue...please help a lude-bro out.thanks

 

Other than replacing spark plugs what else have you done? Like change plug wires, adjust timing, replace the distributor cap and rotor button? These are all things that should be looked at before jumping to the conclusion of the head gasket is bad.

 

You aren't burning up the spark plugs, you are fouling them out. Basic tune up proceedures are in order here. Beyond that, any CEL's?

 

You should be able to tell if its fouled with gasoline, or oil

 

yeah the spark plugs are fouled----there was the CEL way before the engine swap...but i can't find the data link connector----all i see is the white plug and blue plug inside the cd deck---so i can't pull an codes to check----

got new dzzy cap----but still waiting on rotors--and plug wires----check resistance---still good----- less than .25ohms....

after i had swap the engine in----it happens..took out plugs--and they were fouled w/ fuel-----just yesterday--same thing happen---fouled w/ fuel on plugs----dry them..and then put them back in..worked----took car to car wash----came home...and then this morning this happen..i thought it was the air filter frozen not giving oxygen---so i took it off---but it didn't solve the problem....so now im stumped....don't know what...i'll change the rotor and plug wires and update...

 

forgot to tell you all that there were black water drips---out of the exhaust----that mite just be the carbon build-up from normal driving...but nver has done that or seen that before.....

 

forgot to tell you all that there were black water drips---out of the exhaust----that mite just be the carbon build-up from normal driving...but nver has done that or seen that before.....

when i try to start the car--it'll crank and crank---and then i would give it gas---by flooring the gas pedall-----it would turn over--but seems like its lacking fuel---don't smell any fuel----or do i heard the fuel pump after the key is being turn to on--------

 

If you got money, you might want to spend it on some new injectors. Or have the current ones tested

What type of swap did you do?

 

i did a full engine swap...from f20a to h22a canadian----injectors are h22a..and fuel rail being the h23 from previous engine---how do i test injectors????

 

Well you take them to a shop, and they test them there. I forget how they exactly do it, Its on my todo list as well, cause mine are a crappy set of injectors and probally need to be rebuilt or replaced. Mine leave a dry carbon deposit on the plug, which means its running rich, but I think they go lean in the higher RPMS.

 

sounds like intermittent no spark to me...when you crank and crank the engine, the plugs arent firing but the injectors are, so all that gas gets on the plugs

check spark by holding a plug wire close to a header bolt while someone cranks it over, you should see it arc to the bolt

 

If that be true than he would hear alota back firing

 

just a quick update****


i took apart dizzy cap...found rotor to be 1/2 and 1/2...half good half bad...so replace it...still bad....starts up.....but then i need to floor the gas pedal....

assuming that there's not enuff spark to burn up all the fuel so that's why its flooding the plugs----i pull the spark plugs out and its all wet.....dizzy cap is new from honda----only 2 thing left is to check for spark....let's assumed again..

that there's little spark from cyc 1 and 2 and 3 because all those 3 are alwaise wet w/ gas whenever i take them out----would that be a bad coil pickup???? would l let the car sit w/ no plugs in cyc so gas can vapor out??? what would i do in this situation......thanks to all

 

Take each of the spark plug wires. And test them. Unplug them one at a time, and hit a ground with them, to see if they spark.

Oh yeah are they even connected in the right fasion. Meaning.

 

kinda hard to tell from that pic......i'm pretty sure its firing right because awhile back, i had it wrong...and i took a look at my cousin's lude--and got it off from his...and it started back up just fine and dandy....

i'll test for sparks....

 

As crazy as it may sound , my car did the same thing. After repeated attempts at adjusting the valve clearance, it was discovered that the valve stems had been stretched. It was like the valve was too long. I had a certified Honda technician do this work for me so when he said that the lash adjustment was maxed out we ordered new Ferrea valves and machined the head. I am not saying that this is definately your prob. but before I had discovered my issue, I was also replacing spark plugs every other day. They were being fouled out due to the valves not closing fully and letting too much fuel mixture inside. Also sounds like it could be the injectors though. Good luck on fixing it.

 

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bought new plugs--started right up and then i had to just keep my foot on the gas pedal.... once i let it go..rpm will drop all the way to .5rpm and give me very bad idle and then die-----took out spark plugs and wasn't wet this time.

SO WHAT THE FAWK IS WRONG W/ THIS LUDE----MY NXT OPTION WOULD BE TO TAKE MY 10LB SLEDGE HAMMER AND FAWK THE LUDE-----THATS MY 4TH ENGINE ALREADY AND I AIN'T GONNA WASTE ANOTHER DAMN ENGINE ON IT.

 

Your 4th engine. The damn car is cursed.

Id still have the injectors checked.

 

***UPDATE****

got sparks----spark plugs are alwaise wet after i try to start the engine----but i got lot of water coming out of muffler as well as black smoke-----so i don't know what the hell is up now-----

just now i was able to start it up..but very rough idle...floor gas pedal and only gotten to 3rpm..stayed there until i take my foot of the pedal then drops----but once i let go my pedal---engine dies---would compression have anythin to do with this??? haven't done a compression test yet.....open to any ideas....

 

definately do a compression check man.

 

i forgot to mention that before the problem, i was running P14 ECU and was doing just fine until my p13 came in and i put it in. its been doing it ever since, wondering if its the ecu and that the guy chipped it and just didn't tell.

i think that mite be a possibility---swap ecu once to see how it goes and then i'll take the ecu to honda and they will check it out to see if its been chipped. and then i'll do a compression test if all else fails.

 

What type of motor do you have.

H22 right? Why on earth were you running a P14?

If you have H23, P14 is good, but if you put a P13 on an H23 it will most likley cause you problems.

 

If the heat range of the plugs are right, and the ingition is working corret.... you are running way to rich..... are you sure they are not oil fouled??

 

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reason i was running p14 was because i didn't have the p13 yet--so i had to run the engine w/o until i can get the p13. it was running fine and dandy before i put on the p13 though. Running jdm h22a...

I'm not sure if its oil fouled--but when i pull out the plug---its got fuel all over the plug----and smells like gasoline. how do i correct the running way to rich--i was thinking of the same thing that i'm getting just way too much fuel and not enough spark to burn it off----or the ECU must be getting wrong signals----and sending in 2much fuel----

I'm going to reset everything to see if that helps....maybe p14 was asking for one thing and p13 came in and said i don't need this-----so its goofing up the sensors and all.....

thanks to all.....

 

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