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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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basically my friend's vortech Si got into a major accident and so he gave me the sc really cheap... i currently have a 99 h22a and im actually wondering exactly how much work would be needed to make this function. So does anyone have any idea about this?

BTW I actually was in the market for a jrsc but as i understand it it really kind of sucks... 6 psi, i saw the dyno sheets at about 220 for an h22 i believe... yeah....

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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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You don't want a Vortech over the JRSC.....

But if you got a good deal on it, I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to make it work, ASSUMING you are very good at fabbing up stuff.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeyKrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't want a Vortech over the JRSC.....

But if you got a good deal on it, I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to make it work, ASSUMING you are very good at fabbing up stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why jrsc over vortech??? with the vortech u can run an intercooler and more boost
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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Ever seen the dyno of a Vortech and JRSC car? If so, you'll see what I mean.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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220 is more than you think and at 6psi thats bad ***. think if you double it or triple it. 6 psi gave it around 60 hp thats like 10 horsepower per psi. and this is to the wheels. jrsc all the way. and 220 whp will run a lude in 13's thats awsome. especially for only 6lbs. think about 12+ psi thats easy 12's.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jackedcrew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">220 is more than you think and at 6psi thats bad ***. think if you double it or triple it. 6 psi gave it around 60 hp thats like 10 horsepower per psi. and this is to the wheels. jrsc all the way. and 220 whp will run a lude in 13's thats awsome. especially for only 6lbs. think about 12+ psi thats easy 12's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, with 12psi with the JRSC, the air will get so hot, it will melt the inside of the sc...

and centralfugal(sp?) sc with an IC will do soooo much better than the JRSC without an IC.

and i know there is one running with an IC, but that is only one, i will wait for a production of them, before even thinking about gettting the JRSC.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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oh i've heard you can run up to an 18 lbs pulley on jrsc.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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18 psi???? wow...... didnt think they had pulleys for that
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jackedcrew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh i've heard you can run up to an 18 lbs pulley on jrsc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
WAY out of the efficiency range of the M62 blower. Hell, 9 psi is out of its efficiency range and is generally not worth the headache.

--shark, who ran 9 psi on his M62 for a year and is now back to 6.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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hey shark was that on a stock bottom end?? and did you dyno it??
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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yeah thats just what i heard i dont know much about jrsc though im goin n/a.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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how much hp did people make with the vortec?
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Matgallis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much hp did people make with the vortec?</TD></TR></TABLE>
non, since no prelude owner has teh funds, or the ***** to try it...they all like the JRSC.

i am going to go straight custom built turbo for my car, or i would try to get the votec sc to work on our cars, since i know ppl here than can make custom of anything.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by makavelli1227 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
non, since no prelude owner has teh funds, or the ***** to try it...they all like the JRSC. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The torque curves of honda engines running centrifugal superchargers have not been impressive to me
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m00tjam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey shark was that on a stock bottom end?? and did you dyno it?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, no (it's street tuned, I have a wideband in the car).


Modified by sharkcohen at 11:48 AM 4/16/2004
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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Like the others said, unless you are really good at fabricating then I wouldn't do it, and even if you were good at it, not a lot of R&D in it and you will eventually have problems down the road. Also look at the dyno graphs, the JRSC has a smoother powerband then a VSC. I feel 220 whp is suffcient for the street and some track time, but if you want more then 220 whp, sell the VSC and pick up a Turbo Kit.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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good luck on fabricating the vortech charger on your car since there is no room for the blower to be placed as well as the brackets to be place on the block.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 04:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM H22A4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good luck on fabricating the vortech charger on your car since there is no room for the blower to be placed as well as the brackets to be place on the block. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sure there is. good bye AC hello SC
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Hey if you dont want to use the SC, i will take it off yourhands and try it on my car. I Am quite good, and i think that JRSC are lame. even at 6 psi it has heat soak problems,
Centifugal is the way i see is better, Intercooled, and you can tune it into the power-band you want with different pulleys. For instance a bigger pulley will put more power in your higher rpms. I'll buy it off you for 300 bucks more then you baught it for. Let me know.
Or i could help you make it work on a h22. Let me know, im interested
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeHatchH22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think that JRSC are lame.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You've never had one, and you think it is lame. Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You've never had [a JRSC], and you think it is lame. Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

You know, ordinarily I'd agree with that putdown. But what if you hear the same thing from many people, about a &gt;$3000 SC not doing well. Do you completely ignore what other say, being objective, to find out for yourself? If it were $30, sure, but for such a big ticket item I think it's wise to ask lots of questions before jumping in.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know, ordinarily I'd agree with that putdown. But what if you hear the same thing from many people, about a &gt;$3000 SC not doing well. Do you completely ignore what other say, being objective, to find out for yourself? If it were $30, sure, but for such a big ticket item I think it's wise to ask lots of questions before jumping in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess you don't have one, either
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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A vortec SC is far too peaky for a 4 banger....you dont make much power untill your way into the big lobes......yeah youll make 280 whp, but that little jrsc will probably run similar times because hes makin good power (more than you) down low through the middle.....

They are good for a v8 where top end is needed, but on many apps they just arent that impressive....
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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I GOT IT WORKING!!!!
PICS SOON!!!!

for some reason its only boosting at 5 psi but i guess with a little more time i can fix that
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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btw i picked it up for $1200
and my a/c clutch was broken so i just gave the whole thing away.... more room
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