Is it worth it? I went to the Crower website and I've heard that they have stroker kits for the H22, and it even says so somewhere on their website, yet, they don't have one listed, so I have no idea what it would cost. I also heard that Golden Eagle makes one, but I couldn't find any information on that either. Yes, I have searched on this topic and I didn't find anything except for information on stroking B Series engines.

The question I have is whether it is really worth the trouble. I see that alot of these kits come with pretty much everything you need, so I would assume that if I took it to a good shop, they could install it and have it working. But if I were to do the following:

Stroke the engine
Bump the compression
Build the head with Skunk2 Stage II camshafts, valves, springs, etc.

Would the car still be streetable? I think so, but am I not considering something here? Would stroking the engine make a good amount of power as well? What about fuel management? Would Hondata work?

I know that there are a couple people here who have done this before, so I am hoping that someone can point me in the right direction because I hope to be doing this rather soon. I heard from someone that you can stroke an H22 to 2.5, maybe 2.6 .

 

just by prospeeds race block in th classifieds, it already has a crower billet crank and stuff, you just would have to change the pistons. 2.6L. Right there ready to buy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just by prospeeds race block in th classifieds, it already has a crower billet crank and stuff, you just would have to change the pistons. 2.6L. Right there ready to buy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

His block is nice, but I'm not a big fan of buying something that was already built. If I were to stroke my H22, it would be a bit more mild.

It is damn tempting though.

 

2.6L :eek:

 

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His block is nice, but I'm not a big fan of buying something that was already built. If I were to stroke my H22, it would be a bit more mild.

It is damn tempting though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

huh? you just said 2.5L, 2.6L. Why would you 'mildly' stroke a motor? For the cost of a stroker kit whuy waste the money if you're not going big?

 

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huh? you just said 2.5L, 2.6L. Why would you 'mildly' stroke a motor? For the cost of a stroker kit whuy waste the money if you're not going big?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I meant the compression ratio. I'm sorry, but used, for $3500, when you have to go out and spend more money on pistons, it just seems a bit high. Plus, I wanna build this engine myself, not buy someone else's built engine. I thought that I could maybe get my uncle who is good at this kind of stuff to help me over the summer with this and that I could get a killer engine and learn a lot.

 

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I meant the compression ratio. I'm sorry, but used, for $3500, when you have to go out and spend more money on pistons, it just seems a bit high. Plus, I wanna build this engine myself, not buy someone else's built engine. I thought that I could maybe get my uncle who is good at this kind of stuff to help me over the summer with this and that I could get a killer engine and learn a lot. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm guessing you aren't aware that a crower billet crank alone costs $2400.

 

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I'm guessing you aren't aware that a crower billet crank alone costs $2400.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm very aware, I've done some research, but I just can't buy it now. The only way I could do it would be to make payments and I know that that isn't an option. So, sorry, it's a great block and I would do it, but I can't. Changing out the pistons would not be that bad.

 

hey man I don't care it ain't mine. Stroking a motor is not a budget buildup that's for sure.

 

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Clearly. I'm still wondering whether or not it's really worth the money.

 

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Clearly. I'm still wondering whether or not it's really worth the money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think so. I'd rather spend the same money boring an H22a ou to 2.3L and running some nice high comp forged pistons...oh wait I did do that!

 

No need to be so mean. I really am trying to make a nice all-motor H22.

Boring it out is when you sleeve the block and put in bigger pistons right?

 

what was mean about that?

Yeah..boring is when you make the cylinder diameter larger. In an h22 when you go larger than 87.25 you need to sleeve. Then 89mm is the safest I would go. but you can go to 90mm.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what was mean about that?

Yeah..boring is when you make the cylinder diameter larger. In an h22 when you go larger than 87.25 you need to sleeve. Then 89mm is the safest I would go. but you can go to 90mm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess I just read it wrong...my bad. I'm just trying to figure out what to do with this engine. It has SOOOO much potential for all motor and I have the Skunk2 head parts sitting around collecting dust at this point.

What kinda compression do you recommend? 12:5:1? I need to be able to run 93 octane though all the time.

 

I would have to agree with satan, the rod to stroke ratio on the h22 is already low enough, stroking wont help your situation, having a low r/s ratio like that will cause your piston to outrun the front of the explosion in the combustion due to the high piston speeds between TDC and 90 degrees, just my $.02

 

Im building a h22 w/ h23 crank h23 rods w/ arp rod bolts type s pistons and removed balance shafts and oil squiters.

 

when you stroke a motor all you really need is the crank and rods right? thats the only things that change. cuz i was thinking to just bore my motor now and then get the other stuff later when i have more money.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastlude69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when you stroke a motor all you really need is the crank and rods right? thats the only things that change. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you would be right. BTW I would wait until you have all of the money to do everything at once. otherwise it gets expensive having the shop drop the engine again and again. my $.02
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