New Frankenstein Engine = G23 (F23/H23 write up, Long, 56K beware)
11-08-2004, 01:15 PM
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looks great man, I know someone who has been talking about doing this forever, good to know that it works, and that I get to help on the same project. Good job, and props to the community for chipping in for dyno money, that freakin rocks!
11-09-2004, 07:10 AM
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Re: (98EXL)
Chris who runs the dyno has strep throat so that is why he has been hard to get a hold of but I now have an appointment for Thrusday. Numbers will be posted accordingly.
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11-09-2004, 07:59 AM
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Re: (PirateMcFred)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chris who runs the dyno has strep throat so that is why he has been hard to get a hold of but I now have an appointment for Thrusday. Numbers will be posted accordingly.
Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>
11-09-2004, 08:01 AM
#54
Re: (PirateMcFred)
Awesome... I can't wait to see the numbers... I'm getting ready to pull my spun h23 block out and then i need to switch trannies and drop in the new motor (f23 w/h22 head)... Then install the turbo parts and get it tuned... Originally i was going to have it tuned by Mase but i don't really have the time for that so im probably gonna go to one of the local tuners like Titan motorsports... I can't wait to see the results from the dyno... Awesome work Pirate...
11-09-2004, 08:04 AM
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Re: (Sam1am26)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam1am26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Awesome... I can't wait to see the numbers... I'm getting ready to pull my spun h23 block out and then i need to switch trannies and drop in the new motor (f23 w/h22 head)... Then install the turbo parts and get it tuned... Originally i was going to have it tuned by Mase but i don't really have the time for that so im probably gonna go to one of the local tuners like Titan motorsports... I can't wait to see the results from the dyno... Awesome work Pirate...</TD></TR></TABLE>
How high were you revving the H23??
Cna't wait to see how much tq this motor makes.
How high were you revving the H23??
Cna't wait to see how much tq this motor makes.
11-09-2004, 11:40 AM
#57
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Re: (AndyD)
I think that it is kind of ironic that Chris got sick.. I asked him last week before the Halloween track day if I could get some sort of deal to get it fine tuned before the track. He quoted me his usual rates and said that I could wait for a dyno drag that *might* happen at the end of the month. I understand that he is running a business and that he has bills just like I do, but still it is a little funny.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam1am26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Awesome... I can't wait to see the numbers... </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cna't wait to see how much tq this motor makes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't wait to see some numbers. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't either but I will have to. I remember SUB-0 H23's PRE-Crower st. 1 cam dyno and he made 148 torque. His setup was almost stock and high mileage. Then the Crower dyno he got another 10 ft/lbs from a stage one and 13* timing. The stage ones only had a little more duration and about .050" more lift. I wonder what a stage 2 would do.
So I am running a bunch more compression and 50cc's more displacement with a decent I/H/E so I am hoping for 160+ torque that will carry to at least 5000rpm. But if it is a huge let-down I might get some Crowers. Maybe I can get an advance on Christmas gifts for RM springs/retainers. hmmmm...
Pirate
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam1am26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Awesome... I can't wait to see the numbers... </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cna't wait to see how much tq this motor makes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't wait to see some numbers. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't either but I will have to. I remember SUB-0 H23's PRE-Crower st. 1 cam dyno and he made 148 torque. His setup was almost stock and high mileage. Then the Crower dyno he got another 10 ft/lbs from a stage one and 13* timing. The stage ones only had a little more duration and about .050" more lift. I wonder what a stage 2 would do.
So I am running a bunch more compression and 50cc's more displacement with a decent I/H/E so I am hoping for 160+ torque that will carry to at least 5000rpm. But if it is a huge let-down I might get some Crowers. Maybe I can get an advance on Christmas gifts for RM springs/retainers. hmmmm...
Pirate
11-09-2004, 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 lude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HMMM Sounds lovely!</TD></TR></TABLE>
11-11-2004, 09:44 AM
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Re: (hybrid_vtec)
Back from page 4...Well it has been dynoed... and I will tease you with only a little info...
MORE TORQUE THAN HORSEPOWER!!. I beat Satan_SRV's Torque numbers FWIW. Not bad for a pile of random parts slapped together.
I will post the numbers later this afternoon when I get it all the Pics hosted.
Setup:
Hybrid engine @ 2.3 liter
STOCK CAMS
DC H23 header
Testpipe
2.25" crush bent exhaust (dyno proven to rob my old H22 of 5 ftlbs of torque)
3" generic Ebay intake and filter
No PS
No balance shaft belt
15* timing at idle
91 Octane
Prelude Si tranny
17X7 ssr forged wheels
IAB functional
hee hee man this is sweet...
Pirate
MORE TORQUE THAN HORSEPOWER!!. I beat Satan_SRV's Torque numbers FWIW. Not bad for a pile of random parts slapped together.
I will post the numbers later this afternoon when I get it all the Pics hosted.
Setup:
Hybrid engine @ 2.3 liter
STOCK CAMS
DC H23 header
Testpipe
2.25" crush bent exhaust (dyno proven to rob my old H22 of 5 ftlbs of torque)
3" generic Ebay intake and filter
No PS
No balance shaft belt
15* timing at idle
91 Octane
Prelude Si tranny
17X7 ssr forged wheels
IAB functional
hee hee man this is sweet...
Pirate
11-11-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: (PirateMcFred)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Back from page 4...Well it has been dynoed... and I will tease you with only a little info...
MORE TORQUE THAN HORSEPOWER!!. I beat Satan_SRV's Torque numbers FWIW. Not bad for a pile of random parts slapped together.
I will post the numbers later this afternoon when I get it all the Pics hosted.
Setup:
Hybrid engine @ 2.3 liter
STOCK CAMS
DC H23 header
Testpipe
2.25" crush bent exhaust (dyno proven to rob my old H22 of 5 ftlbs of torque)
3" generic Ebay intake and filter
No PS
No balance shaft belt
15* timing at idle
91 Octane
Prelude Si tranny
17X7 ssr forged wheels
IAB functional
hee hee man this is sweet...
Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn you. PM me with the #'s
MORE TORQUE THAN HORSEPOWER!!. I beat Satan_SRV's Torque numbers FWIW. Not bad for a pile of random parts slapped together.
I will post the numbers later this afternoon when I get it all the Pics hosted.
Setup:
Hybrid engine @ 2.3 liter
STOCK CAMS
DC H23 header
Testpipe
2.25" crush bent exhaust (dyno proven to rob my old H22 of 5 ftlbs of torque)
3" generic Ebay intake and filter
No PS
No balance shaft belt
15* timing at idle
91 Octane
Prelude Si tranny
17X7 ssr forged wheels
IAB functional
hee hee man this is sweet...
Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn you. PM me with the #'s
11-11-2004, 10:44 AM
#62
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Re: (Shakes)
I sent PM. If anyone else who helped pay for dyno time wants advance numbers then I will send. Just post or PM me.
Pirate
Modified by PirateMcFred at 1:04 PM 11/11/2004
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Modified by PirateMcFred at 1:04 PM 11/11/2004
11-11-2004, 01:00 PM
#68
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Re: (juicedh22)
I had to host and compile data. So here it is:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1052811
How's that for all OEM nonVTEC? (red line)
With RM S&R Crower cams untuned on Basemap (blue line)
Pirate
Edited to show Crower Cam graph
Modified by PirateMcFred at 9:51 AM 6/9/2005
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1052811
How's that for all OEM nonVTEC? (red line)
With RM S&R Crower cams untuned on Basemap (blue line)
Pirate
Edited to show Crower Cam graph
Modified by PirateMcFred at 9:51 AM 6/9/2005
11-11-2004, 01:54 PM
#74
ok thanx...last question...if i bore out the block to 87mm and i use h22 pistos with 2 head gaskets or a thicker one with the nodified head...what compression would i be running?
11-11-2004, 02:05 PM
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Re: (hOndafienD 04)
this will help you figure it out:
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...c.php
just plug in numbers from the previous 4 pages and it shold tell you what you want to know.
Pirate
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...c.php
just plug in numbers from the previous 4 pages and it shold tell you what you want to know.
Pirate