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Last week I finally took my own advice and cleared all the codes stored (CEL, ATTS, and ABS).
Well, my CEL came back on, which I expected. However, before I could pull the code, something happened. I was driving home in the rain when all of the sudden my headlights and everything else shut off and then came back on. When this happened, the CEL went off but the battery light came on. The ATTS light stayed on and the ebrake light came on. I noticed the next day that the speedometer stays at 0, and the windows go up and down slowly.
I left it like that for a few days (didn't go anywhere). Today I had class 25 miles from my apt. The drive there was uneventful. The speedometer didn't work but the tachometer did, so I knew how fast I was going. After class, I had to go to my brother's house to take care of my dirtbike (radiator sprung a leak).
On my way home at 11:30pm tonight, everything went dead. No headlights, no taillights, no dash lights, no speedo, no tach, no gas gauge, no temp gauge, no radio. The car still drove fine and I was still 15 miles from my apt. So I kept going. Once I got about half a mile from the house, the engine started to sputter just slightly at low RPMs or during acceleration. I drove the quarter mile through the parking lot of my complex only to find that my neighbors are throwing another party. This left me with no parking spot. I continued about 150ft past my apt when the car just gave up and died. When I tried to start the car, nothing happened. I turned the key backwards one notch and that's when all my lights and radio came back on. I tried starting it again, but nothing. I tried to pushstart it, but nothing. So I simply pushed the car 150ft back to my apt (a spot opened up).
This is going to be fun to track down.
Well, my CEL came back on, which I expected. However, before I could pull the code, something happened. I was driving home in the rain when all of the sudden my headlights and everything else shut off and then came back on. When this happened, the CEL went off but the battery light came on. The ATTS light stayed on and the ebrake light came on. I noticed the next day that the speedometer stays at 0, and the windows go up and down slowly.
I left it like that for a few days (didn't go anywhere). Today I had class 25 miles from my apt. The drive there was uneventful. The speedometer didn't work but the tachometer did, so I knew how fast I was going. After class, I had to go to my brother's house to take care of my dirtbike (radiator sprung a leak).
On my way home at 11:30pm tonight, everything went dead. No headlights, no taillights, no dash lights, no speedo, no tach, no gas gauge, no temp gauge, no radio. The car still drove fine and I was still 15 miles from my apt. So I kept going. Once I got about half a mile from the house, the engine started to sputter just slightly at low RPMs or during acceleration. I drove the quarter mile through the parking lot of my complex only to find that my neighbors are throwing another party. This left me with no parking spot. I continued about 150ft past my apt when the car just gave up and died. When I tried to start the car, nothing happened. I turned the key backwards one notch and that's when all my lights and radio came back on. I tried starting it again, but nothing. I tried to pushstart it, but nothing. So I simply pushed the car 150ft back to my apt (a spot opened up).
This is going to be fun to track down.
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Re: Lots of bad news
Sounds a lot like a problem I had a while back. It turned out to be the ground wire on the alternator. My lights were flickering, the engine was driving all funky with very inconsistent power, battery light came on, headlights dimmed, ABS light came on....it was like my car was possessed lol. My vote goes to an alternator issue. But thats odd it wouldnt pushstart...
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Re: Lots of bad news
That's what the car does when slowly loosing power...dash goes first, then other stuff, then the car just dies. Test your alternator and battery Probably won't be a major issue.
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yup that happend to me. when i was taking i look at the alt. i lifted up the littel rubber peice that covers the ground wire(protects from crosion.. LOL) and b4 it was even lifted enough to see under that littel rubber peice SNAP ground wire broke right off... need-less to say that was the issue. good luck
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Same thing happened to me...going to work at 5am, and my gauges faded away, my speedometer wasnt reading the MPHs but strangely my tach was. I would push in the brake pedal and the tach would fall to 0, released the brake pedal and the tach would read again. Went to fraudzone and turns out my Alternator was only pumping out 9volts. Changed the alternator and everything started to work normal again.
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Re: Lots of bad news
i agree with the others, battery light usually means alternator issue.
check grounds, check batt, check alternator, then continue troubleshooting cuz that CEL aint goin nowhere
check grounds, check batt, check alternator, then continue troubleshooting cuz that CEL aint goin nowhere
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Re: Lots of bad news
Well, it's not the battery.
I just swapped in a known-good battery from my girlfriend's car. Everything worked fine at first. So I decided to take my battery to get tested. When I started the car again, the battery light came back on and the speedo didn't work again.
I'll be taking the car to my electrician on Monday. This should also allow me to determine whether it's the O2 sensor wires or the O2 simulator that's causing my CEL 63.
I just swapped in a known-good battery from my girlfriend's car. Everything worked fine at first. So I decided to take my battery to get tested. When I started the car again, the battery light came back on and the speedo didn't work again.
I'll be taking the car to my electrician on Monday. This should also allow me to determine whether it's the O2 sensor wires or the O2 simulator that's causing my CEL 63.
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Re: Lots of bad news
Seems like u got a couple problems hit u at once. Those symptons happened to me when my alternator plug was unknowingly disconnected. my speedometer would not work/act crazy, windows moving slow, headlights dimming aswell. so if your alternator plug is connected im sure your alternator is out and that is why everything worked when u swapped in your friends battery. as far as the CEL 63, im sure its just the actual secondary 02 sensor that is causing it. best of luck
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ECU/EAT ECU fuse (inside, 15A).
May as well check everything else while you're at it. Should be fuses, or grounds. A bad alternator won't cause the funky inside lights.
You'll have to charge up the battery again, probably, before the car is anything but a brick.
May as well check everything else while you're at it. Should be fuses, or grounds. A bad alternator won't cause the funky inside lights.
You'll have to charge up the battery again, probably, before the car is anything but a brick.
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Re: Lots of bad news
Deff change your alternator my boys 5th gen had the same problem you would have to charge battery for good 10 mins to actually have any juice to start. ATTS light and everything came on even with battery still hooked up. Bought new alternator and waaaalaaa. fixed!
And your wrong my friends HIDS were acting crazy when his alternator was dying. im 110% positive its the alternator
And your wrong my friends HIDS were acting crazy when his alternator was dying. im 110% positive its the alternator
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Re: Lots of bad news
yes it would. it will effect everything that is eletrical.. that are u thinking?
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Re: Lots of bad news
Dude was not at work today. Had errands to run. I'll be taking it in first thing in the morning. He said from the symptoms, it's most likely a wiring problem or the alt is dead. If it's a dead alt, we're looking at probably $100 total. Less if it's just wiring.
FYI, wiring problem is very possible considering I jumped those tracks and bottomed out hard enough to rip my exhaust system off the car. I'll let you know tomorrow.
FYI, wiring problem is very possible considering I jumped those tracks and bottomed out hard enough to rip my exhaust system off the car. I'll let you know tomorrow.
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Re: Lots of bad news
I had the same issue, it turned out my o2 sensor wire wore through the protective coating, grounded out, tripped the ELD fuse under the dash. I went through 3 different alternators trying to get the problem fixed... wouldn't charge. Finally thought 'duh, fuses' and sure as ****. Then it kept popping fuses, so i pulled up a wiring diagram and looked into what all ran off of the ELD circuit and started tracing everything. Found my problem pretty quick, took me all of 3 hours to trace/find/fix all of the problems (dead battery, shorted wire, fuse, and alt.)
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