K24 swap in a prelude?
08-11-2005, 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pentaq »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is the use of putting K20 into fat *** prelude?
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap.
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Hold your thoughts until after he puts the turbo on it.
Even K24 has almost the same torque/hp as H22 and with H22 you avoid all this custom crap.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Hold your thoughts until after he puts the turbo on it.
08-11-2005, 11:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SHluder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That sums it up. It's a better engine overall</TD></TR></TABLE>
Smaller bearing races are better?
Smaller bearing races are better?
08-11-2005, 12:23 PM
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Re: (sharkcohen)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hold your thoughts until after he puts the turbo on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm well you can say like that about almost any engine... remember those days when Honda put 1500hp out of 1.5 liter?
Hmm well you can say like that about almost any engine... remember those days when Honda put 1500hp out of 1.5 liter?
08-13-2005, 08:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Matt5745767 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats the point of swapping a K20 into a 5th gen, youre getting like 10 hp from a complete engine swap</TD></TR></TABLE>
Being the "First", unique, innovative, potential, and just cool. Is it worth it, maybe not, but is it intersting, hell yeah.
Nobody's telling anyone to do it, but if you would like to then atleast they give you the option to do it. Innovation is the roots to all this "sports compact" thing we love to do.
Being the "First", unique, innovative, potential, and just cool. Is it worth it, maybe not, but is it intersting, hell yeah.
Nobody's telling anyone to do it, but if you would like to then atleast they give you the option to do it. Innovation is the roots to all this "sports compact" thing we love to do.
08-20-2005, 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MNsnowdaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Being the "First", unique, innovative, potential, and just cool. Is it worth it, maybe not, but is it intersting, hell yeah.
Nobody's telling anyone to do it, but if you would like to then atleast they give you the option to do it. Innovation is the roots to all this "sports compact" thing we love to do. </TD></TR></TABLE>
this is exactly why my boi did it... is all about being unique and most of all is for R & D
Being the "First", unique, innovative, potential, and just cool. Is it worth it, maybe not, but is it intersting, hell yeah.
Nobody's telling anyone to do it, but if you would like to then atleast they give you the option to do it. Innovation is the roots to all this "sports compact" thing we love to do.
</TD></TR></TABLE>this is exactly why my boi did it... is all about being unique and most of all is for R & D
08-30-2005, 11:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goatsterrman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You have to understand that we are not comparing a K-series motor to an H-series motor, We are comparing a K-powered prelude to an H-powered prelude. I feel the K-setup is a far better motor/tranny/ecu, but you can expect to pay in 8-10 grand if not more to safely and correctly get a K-motor into a prelude and if you want to do it now, you will have to custom fab alot of parts. We make and sell the parts to peform K-swaps so I am in no way saying don't do it. I'm just saying that you will spend alot more money to perform a k-swap than you would to make your H-faster. And for the H-trannie issue, we're in the works for fixing that problem, just give us a little time... </TD></TR></TABLE> i wanna hear more about this h- tranny problem solver !
You have to understand that we are not comparing a K-series motor to an H-series motor, We are comparing a K-powered prelude to an H-powered prelude. I feel the K-setup is a far better motor/tranny/ecu, but you can expect to pay in 8-10 grand if not more to safely and correctly get a K-motor into a prelude and if you want to do it now, you will have to custom fab alot of parts. We make and sell the parts to peform K-swaps so I am in no way saying don't do it. I'm just saying that you will spend alot more money to perform a k-swap than you would to make your H-faster. And for the H-trannie issue, we're in the works for fixing that problem, just give us a little time... </TD></TR></TABLE> i wanna hear more about this h- tranny problem solver !
08-31-2005, 05:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc-lefty »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i wanna hear more about this h- tranny problem solver ! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Me too!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Me too!!
08-31-2005, 08:24 AM
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Let me be the first to say BOoo-urrrnnss 
That is an abomination.
Don't get me wrong, its a great accomplishment, but IMO K's don't belong in ludes
That is an abomination.Don't get me wrong, its a great accomplishment, but IMO K's don't belong in ludes
09-13-2005, 12:12 PM
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If I keep my Prelude that long, it's definately an option.
In 2-3 years when the K is 100% mainstream, and 100% supported by the aftermarket, it will be looking to replaced by the next 'great' Honda engine.
It's difficult as is now, I suppect by then the H series would have absolutely NO aftermarket support.
In 2-3 years when the K is 100% mainstream, and 100% supported by the aftermarket, it will be looking to replaced by the next 'great' Honda engine.
It's difficult as is now, I suppect by then the H series would have absolutely NO aftermarket support.
09-15-2005, 04:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bdb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I keep my Prelude that long, it's definately an option.
In 2-3 years when the K is 100% mainstream, and 100% supported by the aftermarket, it will be looking to replaced by the next 'great' Honda engine.
It's difficult as is now, I suppect by then the H series would have absolutely NO aftermarket support.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the k-series motor has already went mainstream and have 100% support by the aftermarket companies.
K20>H22...end of discussion.
In 2-3 years when the K is 100% mainstream, and 100% supported by the aftermarket, it will be looking to replaced by the next 'great' Honda engine.
It's difficult as is now, I suppect by then the H series would have absolutely NO aftermarket support.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the k-series motor has already went mainstream and have 100% support by the aftermarket companies.
K20>H22...end of discussion.
09-15-2005, 07:07 PM
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Re: (dc-lefty)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc-lefty »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i wanna hear more about this h- tranny problem solver ! </TD></TR></TABLE>yea +1 over here...cant stand this POS tranny...
</TD></TR></TABLE>yea +1 over here...cant stand this POS tranny...
09-15-2005, 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by makavelli1227 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the k-series motor has already went mainstream and have 100% support by the aftermarket companies.
K20>H22...end of discussion.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sad, but true.
With the new civics having the K18, that will only just boost the aftermarket potential.
The K-series will be around for a very, very long time...
K20>H22...end of discussion.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sad, but true.
With the new civics having the K18, that will only just boost the aftermarket potential.
The K-series will be around for a very, very long time...
09-16-2005, 03:09 PM
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so when is someone gonna put the tsx engine in a lude? a k20 is a waste, alot of time/energy to have a car thats slower. if you want to be unique why not put a Honda Fit motor in then.
09-16-2005, 03:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzCivic1.6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so when is someone gonna put the tsx engine in a lude? a k20 is a waste, alot of time/energy to have a car thats slower. if you want to be unique why not put a Honda Fit motor in then.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hope you are kidding...
I hope you are kidding...
09-16-2005, 03:46 PM
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why should he be kidding, i agree too k20 has less torque for a heavier car...why would this make it faster, i like this car i think its cool, he did it to the lude something that hasnt been done. But this motor along with like every other motor is not GREAT its expensive and it has it flaws. And Mark Brauning who drives/drove a all motor h22 last year and won the championship, has done many combos using both 'H' and 'K'. He said there very similiar and he dosent like the 'K' at all he said you can put the same effort into an 'H' as the 'K' spend half the money and have around the same numbers. So i dont see the big deal but yes...'K' will be the next generation of Honda greats. but dont knock the 'H'
09-16-2005, 03:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudEnthusiast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I hope you are kidding...</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope, imo it makes about as much sense as swapping a JDM b16 into a GSR.
I hope you are kidding...</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope, imo it makes about as much sense as swapping a JDM b16 into a GSR.
09-16-2005, 04:36 PM
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the K was done in a bb6 strikly for R&D n test wat it can do @ peak...alot of people agree is not worth doin but hey is his car he can do a jdm b16 in a gsr if he wants...IMO i give him props cause he's still the only one w/a K in a bb6 they did test w/k24 it wasnt gonna fit good cause it wont clear the hood line or you have to drop the motor real low w/oil pan almost scrapping the floor....
they did test w/k24 it wasnt gonna fit good cause it wont clear the hood line or you have to drop the motor real low w/oil pan almost scrapping the floor....
09-16-2005, 04:48 PM
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without people like this who did this awesome swap, you wouldnt have k series in a hatch, h22 in a hatch....etc.
I see lots of r&d projects sparking off this. Amazing work. And even more amazing that it is driving around without any bugs.
I see lots of r&d projects sparking off this. Amazing work. And even more amazing that it is driving around without any bugs.
09-16-2005, 05:29 PM
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without people like what? putting a k series in a civic makes sense, putting a h22 in a hatch makes sense, why? because the outcome is better(faster at least) than what you started with.
if it didn't clear the hood, get a different hood. a tsx engine makes sense.
the first guy to put a tri-wing spoiler on a car was original, still didn't make any sense.
if it didn't clear the hood, get a different hood. a tsx engine makes sense.
the first guy to put a tri-wing spoiler on a car was original, still didn't make any sense.
09-16-2005, 05:53 PM
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I guess by innvoation you mean doing something that has not been done before. I think that a k20 or k24 in a prelude is STUPID. What kinda gains are you going to get? the k series still sell for around 5 grand each and the amount time and money going into it could easily be around 10 grand or so. It does not get any props from me. Ok so you put a k series N/A engine in your prelude GREAT is it considerably faster then it was before ? well NO... does it get better MPG? NO does it make as much torque as your old h22 did? well NO .. Ok so what benefits does it provide? well I have something no body else does and I was innovative enough to come up with it... well good now go set in the corner and dream about what you could do with an h22a and 10 grand....