Individual Throttle Body
03-02-2007, 10:11 AM
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Individual Throttle Body
Has anyone done this to there prelude it sounds lke it would get much more gains. So im just curious to see if anyone has this done and if they do is it What are the gains? Negative effects?
03-02-2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (smokedyou19)
http://WWW.SEARCHBEFOREYOUPOST.COM
If you had the brains to do so this is what you would find:
Your search for ITB returned 13 results
read.learn.post.
If you had the brains to do so this is what you would find:
Your search for ITB returned 13 results
read.learn.post.
03-02-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (Chuckles99SH)
wow ok guy I didnt think of typing that in i typer in the whole word and it didnt cme up with anything maybe you should stop being an ***. Not all people just come on and post. I on the other hand do search before. It doesnt make sense to just ask a ? with out searching jsut a waste of time
03-02-2007, 11:00 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (98vtec)
well i had skunk2 pro series cams but took them out i still have them tohugh my whole valve train is done i/h/e the reason why i took the cams out is bc i didnt have a intake manifld or throttle body so it would be kind of pointless to dyno tuen i thought
03-02-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (smokedyou19)
ITB's would prolly make for a killer midrange to peak power gain. Especially with the PRO2's which are a pretty damn aggressive set of cams.
What kind of engine management are you using?
What kind of engine management are you using?
03-02-2007, 11:10 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (98vtec)
well right now nothing it was the apexi neo vafc umm but i think im gettgn a turbo this summer so i d k. I will certainly be running hondata or ems with the turob touhg
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03-02-2007, 11:13 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (smokedyou19)
you'd have to run either hondata, Crome, Neptune, AEM EMS with ITB's as well. Your piggy back doesnt have the ability to control the setup you are talking about.
03-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (alterdcreations)
my pro 2's have less than 50 miles on them
i dont know how much i would give tem away for, but yea where would i even go to get the itb jsut bring it to a shop and its custom or yo ucan actally by a whole set up
i dont know how much i would give tem away for, but yea where would i even go to get the itb jsut bring it to a shop and its custom or yo ucan actally by a whole set up
03-04-2007, 06:07 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (jdmlude5)
Well yea know that i look at it, it wouldnt make sense to have that doen unless i did have high comp pistons..Do you buy the itb as a kit or does a shop do it for you
03-04-2007, 08:14 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (jdmlude5)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmlude5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itb would just hurt your power with very little mods done. u would need like 12.5 compression or higher 4 it to be even worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not necessarilly....you would need some crazy aggressive cams for it to be beneficial. Just mouting ITB's to a stock engine would b pointless. Higher compression, yes...but not something like 12.5:1 is mandatory
not necessarilly....you would need some crazy aggressive cams for it to be beneficial. Just mouting ITB's to a stock engine would b pointless. Higher compression, yes...but not something like 12.5:1 is mandatory
03-04-2007, 09:19 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (egcoupe94)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egcoupe94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not necessarilly....you would need some crazy aggressive cams for it to be beneficial. Just mouting ITB's to a stock engine would b pointless. Higher compression, yes...but not something like 12.5:1 is mandatory</TD></TR></TABLE> 
Agreed though, ITB's on a stock block is dumb. Get a good header first. ITB's on this guys setup should be nice. I'd like to see higher compression, maybe some headwork as well thought.
Agreed though, ITB's on a stock block is dumb. Get a good header first. ITB's on this guys setup should be nice. I'd like to see higher compression, maybe some headwork as well thought.
03-04-2007, 09:21 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (smokedyou19)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokedyou19 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i have skunk 2 pro series cams so im pretty sure those should be agressive enough.</TD></TR></TABLE>
just make sure if you do, to get a good enough header so you don't choke the engine. all that air has to go somewhere, and a small header can really hurt you
just make sure if you do, to get a good enough header so you don't choke the engine. all that air has to go somewhere, and a small header can really hurt you
03-04-2007, 09:21 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (94Vtecluder)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Vtecluder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Agreed though, ITB's on a stock block is dumb. Get a good header first. ITB's on this guys setup should be nice. I'd like to see higher compression, maybe some headwork as well thought. </TD></TR></TABLE>
damn...beat me to it
Agreed though, ITB's on a stock block is dumb. Get a good header first. ITB's on this guys setup should be nice. I'd like to see higher compression, maybe some headwork as well thought.
</TD></TR></TABLE>damn...beat me to it
03-04-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Individual Throttle Body (jdmlude5)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmlude5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itb would just hurt your power with very little mods done. u would need like 12.5 compression or higher 4 it to be even worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
dont post if you dont know.
"opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance"
dont post if you dont know.
"opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance"
03-04-2007, 11:01 AM
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IMO ITB's are for the bling factor. Sure, they add a little power. Maybe 15-20whp on the right setup with a good tune, but you don't need them to make good NA power.
Ogsmakdude over on Prelude Zone made 250whp on a mild tune with a standard intake + IM, and closer to 275 whp on a more aggressive tune. I think he's shooting for 300whp. (without ITB's)
It's like a polished IM on a turbo setup. It's nice, looks pretty, and adds a little power, but is it worth $500?
I don't think I could justify spending $1800 for 15-20whp, but that's just me. If you want it, go for it. It should look badass. But don't think that just because you have one you will have ubar NA power.
Ogsmakdude over on Prelude Zone made 250whp on a mild tune with a standard intake + IM, and closer to 275 whp on a more aggressive tune. I think he's shooting for 300whp. (without ITB's)
It's like a polished IM on a turbo setup. It's nice, looks pretty, and adds a little power, but is it worth $500?
I don't think I could justify spending $1800 for 15-20whp, but that's just me. If you want it, go for it. It should look badass. But don't think that just because you have one you will have ubar NA power.
03-04-2007, 12:02 PM
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I always hear that ITBs give really good throttle response, so even though u don't get as much whp ur car will be a lot faster and I also hear that it gives good torque.
What would I know...I have no experience
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What would I know...I have no experience
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03-04-2007, 06:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Attaus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't think I could justify spending $1800 for 15-20whp, but that's just me. If you want it, go for it. It should look badass. But don't think that just because you have one you will have ubar NA power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ITB and IM.
two different worlds. Two different powerbands.
definitely NOT just a bling factor.
I don't think I could justify spending $1800 for 15-20whp, but that's just me. If you want it, go for it. It should look badass. But don't think that just because you have one you will have ubar NA power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ITB and IM.
two different worlds. Two different powerbands.
definitely NOT just a bling factor.
03-04-2007, 09:04 PM
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Ok.. what? I'm pretty sure each style delivers power throughout the power band. The ITB's just give a slight bump in the midrange up.
You can argue all day how the ITB's will give you slightly better throttle response, or give you a little more midrange torque, but you're wasting your time. In the real world, what matters, a 250whp NA IM setup is going to be just as quick as a 250whp ITB setup. Sorry.
You NA guys always crack me up. There is always some guy who gawks at 10-15 extra whp, which to a boosted guy, is just one more pound. That slightly better throttle response or midrange torque is actually going to make a difference. (other than butt dyno)
Snap out of it and realize that all 10whp is, is 10whp. Not magic.
Modified by Attaus at 12:20 AM 3/5/2007
You can argue all day how the ITB's will give you slightly better throttle response, or give you a little more midrange torque, but you're wasting your time. In the real world, what matters, a 250whp NA IM setup is going to be just as quick as a 250whp ITB setup. Sorry.
You NA guys always crack me up. There is always some guy who gawks at 10-15 extra whp, which to a boosted guy, is just one more pound. That slightly better throttle response or midrange torque is actually going to make a difference. (other than butt dyno)
Snap out of it and realize that all 10whp is, is 10whp. Not magic.
Modified by Attaus at 12:20 AM 3/5/2007
03-04-2007, 09:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Attaus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a 250whp NA IM setup is going to be just as quick as a 250whp ITB setup. Sorry.
Modified by Attaus at 12:20 AM 3/5/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
so you have built and driven both?
Modified by Attaus at 12:20 AM 3/5/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
so you have built and driven both?
03-04-2007, 10:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Attaus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok.. what? I'm pretty sure each style delivers power throughout the power band. The ITB's just give a slight bump in the midrange up.
You can argue all day how the ITB's will give you slightly better throttle response, or give you a little more midrange torque, but you're wasting your time. In the real world, what matters, a 250whp NA IM setup is going to be just as quick as a 250whp ITB setup. Sorry.
You NA guys always crack me up. There is always some guy who gawks at 10-15 extra whp, which to a boosted guy, is just one more pound. That slightly better throttle response or midrange torque is actually going to make a difference. (other than butt dyno)
Snap out of it and realize that all 10whp is, is 10whp. Not magic.
Modified by Attaus at 12:20 AM 3/5/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
No offense, dude, but that sounds a little ignorant to me. Sure, turbo is a sweet way to go, but there's more satisfaction involved in building a 250whp NA H22 than a 400whp turbocharged engine, and its oh so unique. In all due respect, it may be a bit faster and cheaper to go with a turbo setup, but don't **** on innovation just because you don't share someone else's vision.
With that said, I would say go for it. ITB's are oh-so-sick, and we don't see too many of them around these parts. I'd be interested to see someone make this actually work, just realize its gonna be a challenge. But then again, what isn't?
You can argue all day how the ITB's will give you slightly better throttle response, or give you a little more midrange torque, but you're wasting your time. In the real world, what matters, a 250whp NA IM setup is going to be just as quick as a 250whp ITB setup. Sorry.
You NA guys always crack me up. There is always some guy who gawks at 10-15 extra whp, which to a boosted guy, is just one more pound. That slightly better throttle response or midrange torque is actually going to make a difference. (other than butt dyno)
Snap out of it and realize that all 10whp is, is 10whp. Not magic.
Modified by Attaus at 12:20 AM 3/5/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
No offense, dude, but that sounds a little ignorant to me. Sure, turbo is a sweet way to go, but there's more satisfaction involved in building a 250whp NA H22 than a 400whp turbocharged engine, and its oh so unique. In all due respect, it may be a bit faster and cheaper to go with a turbo setup, but don't **** on innovation just because you don't share someone else's vision.
With that said, I would say go for it. ITB's are oh-so-sick, and we don't see too many of them around these parts. I'd be interested to see someone make this actually work, just realize its gonna be a challenge. But then again, what isn't?