sit your stock bulb next to the HID bulb. the base and the bubble have to be the same length as the base and the filament on the halogen bulb.. like this..


if you make the length between the base and the bubble the same as your stock bulb, you will have a way better focal point.

 

not only that, but you need to make sure the base is molded, not glued.

 

i had glued based HID for 3 years.. nothing wrong with it..

 

well i had the stock bulb mounts mounted on the hid buld as far up as it can go...so there is no more room for me to adjust the distance of the focal point...thats y i was considering taking off the reflector.... i don't know if that will be too bright and attract cops...but my friend did the same thing on his DA...and has no reflector either... didn't look too much brighter than mine.

 

take off the reflector? so basically you're sacrificing light output, for looks? i dont understand..

 

Thanks a bunch guys i think i'm going to go with the 4500 kit from Catz. it looks really good on the integra.

 

Any company that claims that "blue" or colored bulbs provide better visibility shows lack of lighting knowledge. I would be skeptical in their claims and would most likely not purchase from them.

"Want to be different? Upgrading to Rainbow Blue is nothing short of enlightening. Not only will your car get noticed, you'll have improved visibility. "

Catz has had double charged Xenon bulbs for a long time now. Not to mention they are of much higher quality.

Finally, site mentions:

"MotionR is only manufacturers to have “exclusivity” to this unique and patent pending coating process"

This is BS (also fix your damn grammar. It is a business website, you should have checked all your grammar before publishing it). Just because there is a patent pending, does not mean crap. This just means a patent application has been submitted. I am willing to bet that as soon as the patent examiner reads the application, it will be rejected.


[Modified by magnetic1, 4:03 PM 2/2/2003]

 

Hey MTK,
Do you have pics of your 4300K against like 7000K against the sylvania silverstars? I know how u have all the knowledge about HID's and all and i got much respect for HID knowledge but how can the silverstars be brighter the the 7000K HID's. Yea i know the 4300k might be whiter = they will light the road better, but the 7500K's are still hella bright, better then the silverstars IMO... how about anyone else? I don't agree when you say that if someone gets a 7000K or higher HID system its ricey or wateva and its a waste of money... I never bought my HID's for the bluish color... only for the better lighting... I've got the 7500K Falcon brand which are made by Hella and they are bright. Yea... they are a bit on the bluish side but i've had no problems with lighting roads or anything. Still better then any any silverstar halogens bulbs... I know about all the facts about the loss of lumens due to a higher K but its all facts... facts need to be backed up and proven... Because to the human eye... the 7500K are still brighter than the silverstars and they arent all that bad to the 4300K in lighting... But yea i wanna hear what ya think MTK... I know your the HID specialist around the H-T forum...


[Modified by spankey167, 2:21 PM 2/2/2003]

 

just FYI, Hella does not make a kit. They supply the ballast, but Hella/Philips does not make a bulb higher than 6000K.

The lumen output of a Silverstar is probably around the range of a 7500K kit. Sure your 7500K kit might appear brighter, but the amount of useable light is MUCH lower.

 

yea i kno they dont make kit thats why i said it was a falcon brand... but the ballast is manufactured by Hella. What i also heard was that it may say 7500K on the box but it is not as high as what it says on it... Anyone else heard of this?The lumen output of a Silverstar is PROBABLY around the range of a 7500K kit? Do you guys have any pics or anything proving this is true... I just wanan see stone hard evidence of this thats all ... I hear a lot of people say this and that but no ones really proven it yet... This topic has been on my mind for a while thats why im pushing for evidence so much... but don't take it as me being a smart *** or anything because im not Just wanna know the truth with proof


[Modified by spankey167, 2:51 PM 2/2/2003]

 

I'd be skeptical by any company who does not have accurate listings....

but if it WAS accurate... by the laws of Physics, a 7500K kit would put out less useable light than a 4300-4500K

 

[Quote] "Sure your 7500K kit might appear brighter, but the amount of useable light is MUCH lower." yea i know scientifically... the usable light is lower... I'm not arguing with physics but isn't it appearing brighter all that matters? Because thats what you see right...? who cares if some fact said its not as bright... i trust what i see with my eyes... Isn't that true with everyone else? I'm not sayin that the facts are false ... but you can't always accept it as it is...





[Modified by spankey167, 3:27 PM 2/2/2003]

 

the reason is because the objects you are lighting will absorb more light than they reflect. The point of automotive lighting is to reflect objects so you can see them.

This is why when it rains, it seems like all headlights are so dim... the water is absorbing the light.

 

actually, he already said what i was gonna say.. the lumen range will be around the same number.. 1700.. cuz the 6000K only puts out around 2200.. so anything around 8000K will be like the same as a silverstar, only thing is..the silverstars still allow the road to be white.. while the 8000K HID will make the road super blue.. and i hope i never have the ability to take the pics because i would kill any of my friends if they ever bought a kit like that

 

hey MTK do u know of any places i can get 4300K HID bulbs? And what would i be looking for in description for the bulb? How much would they range in price for the bulb? Thanx in advance

 

the output is 4000k.. it says so on the container of the bulb..

 

Lumen output, not temperature. While the Silverstar may burn at a temperature closer to white, the intensity is lower.

 

Hey, I know you. LOL

 

Dude! you didn't PM me back!

We gotta put those HIDs into the BMW

 

bulbs usually range anywhere from $120 to $150.. i think u can get them fom autolamps-online.com

 

Just one more thing. Make sure they have the same connectors as your current kit. If not, you might have to do some splicing and connecting of your own.

 

the connecters are typically plugs right? I glanced at the wiring before and it looked like the guy who installed it for me might of spliced the wires. But if not, are there many types of connectors that you know of?

 

hey there. If it was a "Philips Kit" it should have one type of connector, but I have seen some companies do some pretty funky things.

Just check the back of the bulb to see if it matches that of a standard D2S

 

Shouldnt my bulb be D2R? But anyways my system is powerd by Hella ballast. So i should just be checkin for Hella 4300K replacement bulbs?