wondering whats a good set-up for just I/H/E. Need to get it tuned (96 Si) but dont really know much about this stuff. thanks.

 

If later on you are going to have some sort of power adder such as a turbocharger, supercharger, or some nitrous kit. then the benefits of a standalone engine management would pay off. It all depends on you. As of right now I am going with a VAFC to tune my new fuel injectors with my current turbo set up. Later on I will go with the AEM EMS system to completely tune my entire set up. Hondata and Uberdata are also great choices for the price. I should have gone that route but I came across a great deal with the VAFC and fuel injectors. Hope this is some help to you. Good Luck.

 

thanks for the info, I dont plan on FI anytime soon due to low income , i just wanna tune it the way it is. what Hondata do i look for?

 

If this is all you plan on doing to it I would go with a vafc.

If you wanted to go with hondata, the s100 is the best route
but it's probably a little overkill for your current setup.

 

alrighty VAFC it is then, thanks for the input guys, i appreciate it

 

Just wanted to point out if you have an Si that's not swapped, you need and SAFC, not a VAFC, because you don't have V-TACK.

 

i rode in a 4th gen that was completely stock other than an intake, it was h22 vtec, and he tuned it using a hondata s200, and that thing was way faster than my 98 prelude with intake and exhaust. the hondata gave him another 20-25hp to the wheels, so he claimed. i believed him because that thing flew. but i've never ridden in a prelude with a vafc though, so that would probably be enough.

 

From what I have read the 4th generation preludes FEEL much faster then the 5th. There is alot of people who have riden in both and say that if it was for time test and dynos they could swear that a 4th gen prelude is much faster then the 5th but in all honestly the 5th is much faster. That is why alot of 4th generation owners love their cars because they feel so fast. 5th gens dont feel as fast as they are which is good or bad depending on how you look at it. As for hondata a stock 4th gen creating 20-25 more horse power with no other mods seems illogical.. though I dont have experience with it, its just my opinion. As for saying it was much faster then your 98 lude.. did you race him? I noticed you said you rode in it and thats what sparked my interest to share that information with you.. If you raced him and his was much faster then i should probably be quiet now.

 

na, i didn't race him, but i can tell the difference in fast and slow....and that car was definitely faster than mine. as far as the 25hp difference....it was tuned by St00pid so i'm gonna go ahead and believe him. he told me they were expecting maybe another 15 at the wheels, and were stunned when they saw the dyno results. i'm tellin ya, that thing was quick.

 

Well back before i blew my h23... i was smoking h22's left and right.... best i took was a i/h/e h22 with my stock h23.... but that was just difference between drivers, i mastered my launch at 2.8K and h23 = launch beast.... btw it was a 92 and the one i took was a 5th gen. Maybe they were a bad driver? i dunno, the thing was quick, but i hit 5th when he was a little in 4th..... i also took a rx8 in my stock h23 but i think that kid couldnt shift well...

i now have a f22b (practically same engine) but my o2 sensor has been fucked for a month and im fixing it within the next few days finally, and havent been able to really push it at all

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Interested &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I have read the 4th generation preludes FEEL much faster then the 5th. There is alot of people who have riden in both and say that if it was for time test and dynos they could swear that a 4th gen prelude is much faster then the 5th but in all honestly the 5th is much faster. That is why alot of 4th generation owners love their cars because they feel so fast. 5th gens dont feel as fast as they are which is good or bad depending on how you look at it. As for hondata a stock 4th gen creating 20-25 more horse power with no other mods seems illogical.. though I dont have experience with it, its just my opinion. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the only part I agree with you on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMF22B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i also took a rx8 in my stock h23 but i think that kid couldnt shift well...
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he must have been shifting at 5k

what did your h23 run?

 

Well I looked at some time tests for a 99 5th gen compared to a 94 and 95 4th gen vtech.
0-60 1/4 mile

1999 Honda Prelude 6.8 15.4
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC 6.7 15.1
1994 Honda Prelude VTEC 7.2 15.1

Apparently the 4th gen is faster... anyone have anything to add to this.

 

Makes me want to get a 4th gen over 5th now =0( too bad 4th gens look so cheap to me and I always see 4th gens being driven like ghetto cars around with big rims and sound systems. If it wast for the bad rap and the cheap look I might have myself a nice 4th gen lude right now

 

cheap look my a$$, the 4th gen has the most stylish
look of any honda

 

I've got somethn' cheap for ya! LOL.

I've had people in the passenger seat of my "cheap" 4th gen who have told me that it seems faster than what the spedometer says. Idunno.

 

Don't worry about it guys, this is what he's rolling...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Interested &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Makes me want to get a 4th gen over 5th now =0( too bad 4th gens look so cheap to me and I always see 4th gens being driven like ghetto cars around with big rims and sound systems. If it wast for the bad rap and the cheap look I might have myself a nice 4th gen lude right now </TD></TR></TABLE>Ehhhh no.. thats great you have an opinion man but lets try to keep opinions to ourselves and stay on topic iight. I've decided to go Hondata because 1) the cops will never know and 2) standalone is more reliable than a piggyback.
hope that gives ya somethin to think about.

 

usually feels faster when u're in the passenger seat...try it if u trust the person driving ....

 

get a hondata S100 with a P28. should be about the same price as a VAFC / SAFC. but if you really want, ill sell you my vafc

 

getting 25 whp may be much, but there's alot to be gained by running a hondata on a mostly stock motor. I'd say 10 whp at least by simply tuning the fuel maps and maybe some more if you mess with ignition.

it's been brought up alot, but a guy with bolt ons and an emanage dyno'd ~200 whp over on PO.

even if that's exaggerated a little, 195 whp or even 190 whp is way more than you'd see with a VAFC or untuned.

we'll see. i've got i/h/e and an emanage on the way.

a good tuner is worth his weight in gold.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Interested &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I have read the 4th generation preludes FEEL much faster then the 5th. There is alot of people who have riden in both and say that if it was for time test and dynos they could swear that a 4th gen prelude is much faster then the 5th but in all honestly the 5th is much faster. That is why alot of 4th generation owners love their cars because they feel so fast. 5th gens dont feel as fast as they are which is good or bad depending on how you look at it. As for hondata a stock 4th gen creating 20-25 more horse power with no other mods seems illogical.. though I dont have experience with it, its just my opinion. </TD></TR></TABLE>

don't agree with you at all. always have seen 4th gens hand it to the 5th gens. 5th gens have more weight with the same HP, how could they be faster?

 

agreed. interested, this thread sounds like its a flame thread now. thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Elkins911 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">agreed. interested, this thread sounds like its a flame thread now. thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i was looking for engine management not 1/4 mile times......so safc or hondata?