Difference between SH and Type-S
Well motor specs atleast. I'm thinking of doing some mods, and i was thinking of getting Type S cam gears and Type S camshaft. Is there really a difference among performance? What gives the Type-S those extra horses?
type s higher compression, better internals. forged pistons etc; the SH I believe it has the same specs as the base as far as the h22, but what separates it from the other is its more sophisticated suspension. Remember SH stands for super handling. Just what I know I'm sure others here will give you more depth on this topic and you could also search the prelude stats.
heres the Cam specs!
Stock Specs from H22 US Spec
Int- 288 mid
Exh-308 mid
Stock Specs from H22 JDM Spec Type S
Int- 309 mid
Exh-315 mid
Stock Specs from H22 US Spec
Int- 288 mid
Exh-308 mid
Stock Specs from H22 JDM Spec Type S
Int- 309 mid
Exh-315 mid
stock h22 camshafts (not type s) are good to over 600whp, so i wouldn't go changing them just because you can. I've got over 15 grand in my setup and still have stock cams. Use the money for something more useful like exhaust, intake, ramen noodles, quaife lsd, header, pullies, toilet bowl cleaner, suspension, forced induction, fish food, engine build.........you know, that sort of stuff.
by the way........the type s has 220hp, and the type sh has 195-200 depending on year model. the type sh has the ATTS, or active torque trasfer system, which was a complete waste of the extra money i spent to get the "upgraded" model. I wish i'd have gotten a base model so i wouldn't have had to deal with the ATTS crap before. it poops out around 250whp, and can not be used with an aftermarket ecu. it hardly ever worked while i had it on the car anyways. if you want to go fast, turbo is the only solution.
Representin' the dark side baby!
by the way........the type s has 220hp, and the type sh has 195-200 depending on year model. the type sh has the ATTS, or active torque trasfer system, which was a complete waste of the extra money i spent to get the "upgraded" model. I wish i'd have gotten a base model so i wouldn't have had to deal with the ATTS crap before. it poops out around 250whp, and can not be used with an aftermarket ecu. it hardly ever worked while i had it on the car anyways. if you want to go fast, turbo is the only solution.
Representin' the dark side baby!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChrisRicketts »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock h22 camshafts (not type s) are good to over 600whp, so i wouldn't go changing them just because you can. I've got over 15 grand in my setup and still have stock cams. Use the money for something more useful like exhaust, intake, ramen noodles, quaife lsd, header, pullies, toilet bowl cleaner, suspension, forced induction, fish food, engine build.........you know, that sort of stuff.
by the way........the type s has 220hp, and the type sh has 195-200 depending on year model. the type sh has the ATTS, or active torque trasfer system, which was a complete waste of the extra money i spent to get the "upgraded" model. I wish i'd have gotten a base model so i wouldn't have had to deal with the ATTS crap before. it poops out around 250whp, and can not be used with an aftermarket ecu. it hardly ever worked while i had it on the car anyways. if you want to go fast, turbo is the only solution.
Representin' the dark side baby!
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I was gonna mention the ATTS but... uh... how high can you take the Stock cams up to (rpm wise?) cause I know in the RSX-S stock cams can only take up to 8400. I mis shifted once (stupid me) and it went to about 11k... yea... I was scared that thing would blow to smitherenes... but it didn't... so... yea, how high can you take them to?
by the way........the type s has 220hp, and the type sh has 195-200 depending on year model. the type sh has the ATTS, or active torque trasfer system, which was a complete waste of the extra money i spent to get the "upgraded" model. I wish i'd have gotten a base model so i wouldn't have had to deal with the ATTS crap before. it poops out around 250whp, and can not be used with an aftermarket ecu. it hardly ever worked while i had it on the car anyways. if you want to go fast, turbo is the only solution.
Representin' the dark side baby!
</TD></TR></TABLE>I was gonna mention the ATTS but... uh... how high can you take the Stock cams up to (rpm wise?) cause I know in the RSX-S stock cams can only take up to 8400. I mis shifted once (stupid me) and it went to about 11k... yea... I was scared that thing would blow to smitherenes... but it didn't... so... yea, how high can you take them to?
wow this is noobfest '06.
anyway, i'm not really sure how high of rpm's you can take the stock cams. i probably wouldn't want to take them over 8500rpms. but going that high is up there anyways. just make sure you have a rev limiter so you don't kill your poor motor.
anyway, i'm not really sure how high of rpm's you can take the stock cams. i probably wouldn't want to take them over 8500rpms. but going that high is up there anyways. just make sure you have a rev limiter so you don't kill your poor motor.
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Yea, the stock limiter only lets me go to 8100 anyways. I just wanted to make sure cause after I get Hondata, I was gonna change cams right away, but if they can handle up to 8500, I can get the hondata a lil sooner, then get the VS and Retainer kit first before the cams.
wow.....
first of all the type s does not have forged pistons, theyre cast just like all other h pistons, type s gets its extra power from cams and higher compression pistons (11:1 vs. sh 10:1), also there is some debate over whether the valvetrain is a little upgraded, yes stock h cams are good to 600whp assuming youre going to boost, if staying N/A then new cams are definitely needed, as far as how high they can rev, the cams can go however high you want (reasonably, obviously no one is thinking about 13k...hopefully), however stock cams arent going to be making power past 7600 hence the reasoning behind that being the redline and for coming with valvetrain only suited to go that high, upgraded cams can make power past 7600 if thats what you want, but other mods will be necessary, if you are thinking you want to go really really high like 10k like b series then you will have to spend a lot of money destroking as piston speeds become a factor
before you do and buy anything read a shitload first, then determine whether you will go boost or stay N/A, then determine your goals, taking into account that for boost you will have (well should) resleeve, do not need new cams or a header, and for N/A you will need cams and valvetrain, and with many cams you will only see their full potential with higher compression
first of all the type s does not have forged pistons, theyre cast just like all other h pistons, type s gets its extra power from cams and higher compression pistons (11:1 vs. sh 10:1), also there is some debate over whether the valvetrain is a little upgraded, yes stock h cams are good to 600whp assuming youre going to boost, if staying N/A then new cams are definitely needed, as far as how high they can rev, the cams can go however high you want (reasonably, obviously no one is thinking about 13k...hopefully), however stock cams arent going to be making power past 7600 hence the reasoning behind that being the redline and for coming with valvetrain only suited to go that high, upgraded cams can make power past 7600 if thats what you want, but other mods will be necessary, if you are thinking you want to go really really high like 10k like b series then you will have to spend a lot of money destroking as piston speeds become a factor
before you do and buy anything read a shitload first, then determine whether you will go boost or stay N/A, then determine your goals, taking into account that for boost you will have (well should) resleeve, do not need new cams or a header, and for N/A you will need cams and valvetrain, and with many cams you will only see their full potential with higher compression
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01 Prelude SH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats the most HP I can make on a N/A motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

190 sounds about right. . . . . or you could try searching, or looking about ten posts down and you would have found this:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1591922

190 sounds about right. . . . . or you could try searching, or looking about ten posts down and you would have found this:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1591922
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01 Prelude SH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didnt mean stock. I meant with aftermarket mods, whats the most the motor can do before its at a max so to speak.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And I meant what i said. Without doing research, you will make about 190hp or less. There is so much information on this site that you would have answered your question tens times and then some if you just search the archives.
And I meant what i said. Without doing research, you will make about 190hp or less. There is so much information on this site that you would have answered your question tens times and then some if you just search the archives.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw the type S also has ATTS.
the SiR G has the OEM helical LSD...</TD></TR></TABLE>
is that the m2b4 or the u2t4 or something like that??? is m2b4 SiR and u*** from the atr???
the SiR G has the OEM helical LSD...</TD></TR></TABLE>
is that the m2b4 or the u2t4 or something like that??? is m2b4 SiR and u*** from the atr???
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