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this guy had the car already and an extra motor laying around from one that was wrecked. I went for a ride in my turbo civic and was hooked. So we did some checking on a few parts and you see what happened.
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Well we had a pretty day at the dyno:
512 WHP / 382 WTQ @ 22 psi on pump gas.
Bewteen the motor and the manifold, the turbo spools really fast and hard. 1 and 2 are pretty much worthless with street tires, 3rd starts to hook until about 5000 then you have to back pedal to 8000, 4th finally hooks and really pulls hards. I don't have a scanner for the graph, but I'll try to post it when I get a chance. Also, we were not allowed to be close to be able to take a good video, but I'll have to get a few "in car video's" when I get a chance.
512 WHP / 382 WTQ @ 22 psi on pump gas.
Bewteen the motor and the manifold, the turbo spools really fast and hard. 1 and 2 are pretty much worthless with street tires, 3rd starts to hook until about 5000 then you have to back pedal to 8000, 4th finally hooks and really pulls hards. I don't have a scanner for the graph, but I'll try to post it when I get a chance. Also, we were not allowed to be close to be able to take a good video, but I'll have to get a few "in car video's" when I get a chance.
wow and thats with the stock valvetrain? Why do so many people upgrade these parts when it seems its clear they are not needed?
Sounds like a beast and I can't wait to see the vids!
Sounds like a beast and I can't wait to see the vids!
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The cams are the stock part of the valvetrain. The valves are stock size aftermarket and the springs are upgraded as well. At 15 psi is was making 430 whp at about 9000. As the power went up the power curve of the cams dropped to about 8200. This is a good thing since it will increase engine life.
The cams are the stock part of the valvetrain. The valves are stock size aftermarket and the springs are upgraded as well. At 15 psi is was making 430 whp at about 9000. As the power went up the power curve of the cams dropped to about 8200. This is a good thing since it will increase engine life.

Makes me wonder why anyone would want to upgrade their cams if they can handle that kind of power.....I guess for max power at max rpm but like you said it wont last as long.
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When we spec'd the motor for the application at Endyn, Larry told us (I'm not 100% on this since it been a while) that the cams were good to 750HP.....i think. Its the same thing with a B-series. GSR cams are good to 650HP and TypeR's are more then that. At the same time, the TypeR cams basically shift every up 1000 RPM over the GSR's and you have to twist up higher to see the performance of the cam. Its better to fit the cam to the application and not just get the biggest one avaiable since the valve spring life is also effected by the amount of lift. So if anyone is building a motor for the street, basically the stock cams are the best. Even a SOHC VTEC cam is good to 450hp.
wow I did not know any of this. I thought cams were one of the first upgrades to add some power.
I'm looking into building an all motor H22 that will put out up to 250whp which is why I ask. NA is a lot different though I guess as you have to utilize all the parts you can to produce any decent amount of power.
What if you say put the Type S cams in your motor? Would you not produce more power throughout the rev range? Or would this lessen the life of your motor because of the higher lifts of the cam?
I'm looking into building an all motor H22 that will put out up to 250whp which is why I ask. NA is a lot different though I guess as you have to utilize all the parts you can to produce any decent amount of power.
What if you say put the Type S cams in your motor? Would you not produce more power throughout the rev range? Or would this lessen the life of your motor because of the higher lifts of the cam?
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wow I did not know any of this. I thought cams were one of the first upgrades to add some power.
I'm looking into building an all motor H22 that will put out up to 250whp which is why I ask. NA is a lot different though I guess as you have to utilize all the parts you can to produce any decent amount of power.
What if you say put the Type S cams in your motor? Would you not produce more power throughout the rev range? Or would this lessen the life of your motor because of the higher lifts of the cam?
I'm looking into building an all motor H22 that will put out up to 250whp which is why I ask. NA is a lot different though I guess as you have to utilize all the parts you can to produce any decent amount of power.
What if you say put the Type S cams in your motor? Would you not produce more power throughout the rev range? Or would this lessen the life of your motor because of the higher lifts of the cam?
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This is a 2001 Honda Prelude with the following specs. This is a very nice and very well built car. It is also very fast and fun to drive!!
Asking Price is $20,000.00 OBO....NEED TO SELL FAST!!
ENGINE SPECS AS FOLLOWS:
Engine was built by Endyn
Engine - H22
ERL Sleeved Blocked - Stock Size Bore
Balance Shaft Eliminator Kit
Balanced Stock Crank
Mechanical Timing Belt Tensioner
Crower H22 Turbo Rods
Endyn Roller Wave Pistons (Ceramic Coated) - 9.3:1 Compression
Endyn Ported Cylinder Head: Included The Following:
-O-Rings Around Combustion Chambers
-Manganese Bronze Valve Guides
-Racing Valves - Stock Size
-Endyn Racing Valve Springs
-Endyn Titanium Retainers
-Endyn H22 Rocker Arms
-Stock Cams
-AEM H22 Adjustable 5-Bolt Cam Gears
Skunk 2 Intake Manifold - Ported And Flow Benched
68MM Throttle Body
Lovefab Sidewinder Turbo Manifold
Garrett GT35R Turbo
4" Turbo Inlet with K&N Air Filter
PWR Performance Air To Water Inter cooler. Closed System With Water Pump And Heat Exchanger With Fan.
Tial 50MM Blow Off Valve
Tial 44MM Wastegate
Perrin Boost Controller. ( Boost controlled by AEM ECU )
3" Custom Down Pipe
3" Magnaflow Exhaust
Magnaflow Muffler
Clutch Master 4-Puck Racing Clutch
Stock Flywheel
Stock Axles
Quaife Biasing Differential
Moroso Oil Pan - 5.5 Quarts
Maxi-Cool Oil cooler With Fan
Endyn Oil Adapter - Feeds Extra Oil To Cylinder Head To Reduce Valve-Train Wear
Custom Oil Lines
Endyn Breather Canister
Remote Mounted IAC Valve
Engine Management:
AEM EMS
AEM 5-Bar Map Sensor
AEM Digital Wideband Gauge With Sensor
MSD Digital 6 Ingition
MSD Coil
MSD Distributer Cap
MSD Spark Plug Wires
MSD Knock Alert
NGK Plugs - 2 Steps colder ( R5672A-9 )
Fuel System:
Bosh Fuel Pump - External Mounted
RC 1000cc Injectors
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM Fuel Rail
Summit Racing Fuel Pressure Gauge
Custom Fuel Lines
Wheels, Suspension, Brakes:
KYB Adjustable Struts Both Front And Rear
Adjustable Chamber Kits Both Front And Rear
Stock Springs
Suspension Techniques Sway Bars Both Front And Rear
17" BBS Rims
Cooper Tires
Power Slot Big Front Brake Kit With 13-1/2" Rotors And Hawks Ceramic Pads
AEM Big Rear Brake Kit And Hawks Ceramic Pads
Goodridge Braided Stainless Steel Brake Lines
Exterior Upgrades:
Wings West R.S. Body Kit
Wings West Rear Wing
Custom Cowl Induction Hood
Moon Roof Air Dam
Inside The Car:
Full Custom Black Leather Interior By Pro-Trim. Both Front And Rear Seat.
Carbon Fiber Interior Trim
Stereo:
Alpine Radio Satellite Radio
Alpine DVD/CD/MP3 Receiver Mobil Media Station
Alpine 12-Disk CD Changer
Alpine 220x2 @ 4-Ohm Amplifier
Alpine TypeS 6x9 Speakers
Alpine SPR Series 5.25" Mid and 1" Tweeter 12DB/OCT Crossover
Alpine R-Series 10" Dual 4-Ohm Voice Coil Sub-Woofers (Set of 2)
100 Amp Circuit Breaker
Gauges:
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Oil Pressure Gauge
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Fuel Pressure Gauge
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Boost Gauge 0-30psi
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Oil Temperature Gauge
AEM UEGO Wideband Gauge
AEM 19-Channel Serial Gauge
I have complete set of pictures that show the entire build. I can send additional pictures upon request. I also have full list of parts and cost for this entire build.
Asking Price is $20,000.00 OBO....NEED TO SELL FAST!!
ENGINE SPECS AS FOLLOWS:
Engine was built by Endyn
Engine - H22
ERL Sleeved Blocked - Stock Size Bore
Balance Shaft Eliminator Kit
Balanced Stock Crank
Mechanical Timing Belt Tensioner
Crower H22 Turbo Rods
Endyn Roller Wave Pistons (Ceramic Coated) - 9.3:1 Compression
Endyn Ported Cylinder Head: Included The Following:
-O-Rings Around Combustion Chambers
-Manganese Bronze Valve Guides
-Racing Valves - Stock Size
-Endyn Racing Valve Springs
-Endyn Titanium Retainers
-Endyn H22 Rocker Arms
-Stock Cams
-AEM H22 Adjustable 5-Bolt Cam Gears
Skunk 2 Intake Manifold - Ported And Flow Benched
68MM Throttle Body
Lovefab Sidewinder Turbo Manifold
Garrett GT35R Turbo
4" Turbo Inlet with K&N Air Filter
PWR Performance Air To Water Inter cooler. Closed System With Water Pump And Heat Exchanger With Fan.
Tial 50MM Blow Off Valve
Tial 44MM Wastegate
Perrin Boost Controller. ( Boost controlled by AEM ECU )
3" Custom Down Pipe
3" Magnaflow Exhaust
Magnaflow Muffler
Clutch Master 4-Puck Racing Clutch
Stock Flywheel
Stock Axles
Quaife Biasing Differential
Moroso Oil Pan - 5.5 Quarts
Maxi-Cool Oil cooler With Fan
Endyn Oil Adapter - Feeds Extra Oil To Cylinder Head To Reduce Valve-Train Wear
Custom Oil Lines
Endyn Breather Canister
Remote Mounted IAC Valve
Engine Management:
AEM EMS
AEM 5-Bar Map Sensor
AEM Digital Wideband Gauge With Sensor
MSD Digital 6 Ingition
MSD Coil
MSD Distributer Cap
MSD Spark Plug Wires
MSD Knock Alert
NGK Plugs - 2 Steps colder ( R5672A-9 )
Fuel System:
Bosh Fuel Pump - External Mounted
RC 1000cc Injectors
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM Fuel Rail
Summit Racing Fuel Pressure Gauge
Custom Fuel Lines
Wheels, Suspension, Brakes:
KYB Adjustable Struts Both Front And Rear
Adjustable Chamber Kits Both Front And Rear
Stock Springs
Suspension Techniques Sway Bars Both Front And Rear
17" BBS Rims
Cooper Tires
Power Slot Big Front Brake Kit With 13-1/2" Rotors And Hawks Ceramic Pads
AEM Big Rear Brake Kit And Hawks Ceramic Pads
Goodridge Braided Stainless Steel Brake Lines
Exterior Upgrades:
Wings West R.S. Body Kit
Wings West Rear Wing
Custom Cowl Induction Hood
Moon Roof Air Dam
Inside The Car:
Full Custom Black Leather Interior By Pro-Trim. Both Front And Rear Seat.
Carbon Fiber Interior Trim
Stereo:
Alpine Radio Satellite Radio
Alpine DVD/CD/MP3 Receiver Mobil Media Station
Alpine 12-Disk CD Changer
Alpine 220x2 @ 4-Ohm Amplifier
Alpine TypeS 6x9 Speakers
Alpine SPR Series 5.25" Mid and 1" Tweeter 12DB/OCT Crossover
Alpine R-Series 10" Dual 4-Ohm Voice Coil Sub-Woofers (Set of 2)
100 Amp Circuit Breaker
Gauges:
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Oil Pressure Gauge
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Fuel Pressure Gauge
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Boost Gauge 0-30psi
AutoMeter Sport Comp II Electronic Oil Temperature Gauge
AEM UEGO Wideband Gauge
AEM 19-Channel Serial Gauge
I have complete set of pictures that show the entire build. I can send additional pictures upon request. I also have full list of parts and cost for this entire build.
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