i know this... but that is what comes with it... he doesnt want to part out the suspension

 

I have updated the instructions...I found out my wheel bearings are fucked the same time go pre posted this on PO.com

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Originally posted by go pre
I found out what the problem with my wheel bearing was...

Apparently the 4th gen axle spline is too long for the 5th gen hub. When I torqued down the axle nut, it ran out of threads and did not seat the spline through the hub fully. As soon as I drove the car the bearing came loose.

I don't know if this is an issue with all 5th gen hubs, but I tried 2 different ones from a 98 and had the problem with both.

To fix the situation, I used a washer under the axle nut. That gives the nut more room so it can pull the axle in all the way. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Mine are exactly the same so I'm going to have to grab new bearings and use a spacer/washer from now on to keep from wreck the bearings. what a ****-off! Oh well now we know!

I knew something was wrong because I have so much power the wheels would be all over the place when I would accelerate.

 

bringing it back from the dead...

has anyone figure out what offset you could run with the 5 lug on your 4th gen? i was able to get the parts just not any wheels. so eventually i will be in the market for wheels. anyone got any ideas on how we figure this out?
thanks!

 

4th and 4th gen wheels have the same offset.

 

Can you tell that theres more rotating mass with the 5g wheels?

 

thats exactly what i was gonna say fuctup

 

Need some help here. I have a 92 SR Prelude with a a 01 H22 swap and a Drag gen 4 turbo kit w/ a bunch of upgrades. I am using enjo 500hp axels to cure the the fitment problems . I am doing the 5 lug swap in it and having a bunch of issues with fitment and what not. I have all the parts listed in this post all from a 97 . Ok here is the issues, the rear bolts up fine but the 92 calipers wont bolt up. The front balljoints seem to be too small and the tierods seem to be too big. Any help will be appreciated .

 

please anyone , any help would be greatly appreciated , I am about to try swaping ball joints to see if that will work I also have a wrecked srv here an the part #'s on the rear calipers are the same so I dont know wtf maybe the us cars are different then the canandian cars

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by warrick &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Need some help here. I have a 92 SR Prelude with a a 01 H22 swap and a Drag gen 4 turbo kit w/ a bunch of upgrades. I am using enjo 500hp axels to cure the the fitment problems . I am doing the 5 lug swap in it and having a bunch of issues with fitment and what not. I have all the parts listed in this post all from a 97 . Ok here is the issues, the rear bolts up fine but the 92 calipers wont bolt up. The front balljoints seem to be too small and the tierods seem to be too big. Any help will be appreciated .</TD></TR></TABLE>

do the front knuckles have 2 lower ball joints on each side? IF so, you have TypeSH knuckles...they don't work.

 

It was never specified , I will check tonight. I had know idea there was a difference. I will post when i know.

Thanks

 

dam canadians



how are you and rick gettin along joel?

 

wow arent you intelligent , if you dont have any usefull input then **** off.

As for having 2 balljoints on each side that is a negative, the lower balljoint is way too small for controll arm and the tie rod is way too big, And the rear calipers will not bolt up. I am gonna order some 4g tierods and balljoints and see if they will cure the problem up front , as for the back Im gonna try and find some 5g calipers.

 

how many people have actually done this swap? any problems ? Cause it seems pretty straight forward , and I am haveing nothing but problems with it. I am begining to think I was sold the wrong parts...........

 

hey someone needs to do a picture write up on this !

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by warrick &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow arent you intelligent , if you dont have any usefull input then **** off.

</TD></TR></TABLE> no i asked him a question...

 

Well I finally got the 5 bolt done. I ended up having to press out the 5 bolt hubs and press them back into the 4 bolt knuckles. As for the back I ended up having to purchase the rear calipers from a 5th gen for them to bolt up.

So ya just a heads up for anyone else doing this conversion. I will post pics in a couple of days.

 

so are you saying that all a 4g needs are the 5 lug hubs, not the knuckle?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jackstands &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so are you saying that all a 4g needs are the 5 lug hubs, not the knuckle?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

sorry I havent been on here in awhile . Yes that is all I used. I had no choice really. The upper and lower ball joints were the wrong size and the tie rod size was wrong as well. The guy that sold me everything swears it came out of a 97 lude so I made it work. I also used enjo 500hp axels stainless brake lines, 5mm H&R wheel spacers , zenki light weight lugs Hawk Hp+ pads while I was in there. The other thing i had to use was the rear calipers as well from the 97 So far I have had no probs except for broken ring lands ( hee hee too much boost ) So I have the block and head on the way to earl right now . I will be doing another one in a few weeks . I will hopfully get to see the donor car first and I will take pics this time if I run into the same probs.

 

Doesn't make much sense to me. I currently have fifth gen knuckles and hubs on the front and the 5th gen hub and spindle on the back. I re-used the VTEC calipers both front and back.

You only need the 5th gen hub on the front, but pressing it off the 5th gen knuckle and then pressing it on the 4th gen knuckle is more costly than just swapping the whole knuckle..

Not sure why you had the problems.

 

I recently did this conversion and just wanted to add that you need the rear tie rods off of the 5th gen. The tie rods for 4th gens (at least my 93) attach differently to the knuckle (the bolt screws directly into the knuckle) while the 5th gen knuckle uses a ball joint, like the one that bolts to the sway bar.

I had to go pick up some washers for the front as well despite having slightly shorter 5th gen cv axles, so apparently it's a must. Thanks for the heads up.


Modified by 2lude4u at 1:28 PM 1/29/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Simple swap as detailed by someone else
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Where?

 

That sounds like alot of money guys. I just pressed my 4th gen hubs out and remachined them for a 5 bolt pattern as well as the rotors and pressed it all back together. All it cost was the price of new wheel bearings (good idea anyways) and 2 more studs. I havent done the back yet but it should be just as easy. Then you dont have to worry about what works what.

 

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Ok I'm planning on doing this swap and I have a few questions since I don't know crap about suspension and its componets. The junk yard it's selling me the 4 units to do this swap. But I can't tell from what it's what , I don't want to spent money on things I don't need. The four units he's selling me have the rotors, calipers the whole piece all together. Are the hubs/ spindles/ knuckles in there? could some one post pics of the parts I need so I can identify them. Thanks

one thing I clearly know it's that I don't need the calipers since my 4th it's an original vtec