i have a 00 sh and it pulls pretty hard to the right.. i've taken it to get it aligned, but it still pulls to the right.. finally after i started bitchin at the guy, dude told me my car doesnt have a camber adjustment? said most cars now dont have them and i'd have to buy a aftermarket camber adjustment kit? or he said something about a bolt? what kit do i need to buy? no suspension mods or lowering.. allll stock...

 

you could buy adjustable camber kits, but that is unnecessary, camber wont make your car pull either way, within reason....definitely not in your situation

take it back to him and tell him to just make sure that your caster and toe are correct....to adjust caster on your car honda sells different length radius rods, tell him that, and have him make the necessary adjustments like he should have the first time....dont pay him any more either

NC has the worst service places, i swear, there is not one good one....

 

yeah, thanks, this will make the 3rd time i've taken it back. so when i tell him honda makes different length radius rods.. he'll fix it? or he'll know what to do?

 

I thought camber does pull. And toe doesn't pull - but is just a tire wearing angle.

| / <--Pulls to the right

\ | <---pulls to the left

\ / <----goes straight and wears tires

I thought the toe is just responsible for the steering wheel angle and the irregular tire wear patterns.

I also though Caster is just a returnability angle.




Modified by TheKingPin at 10:34 AM 11/28/2005

 

yeah go here.. this will help you on the differences of caster and camber.. i know what they are im just frustrated b/c i dont know if i need to buy a camber kit and which one to buy? or what comes with it or what? .. the sh model i know is going to be way harder to deal with. or if i bought a aftermarkt camber kit? i want it to be as close to stock as possible w/o interferring in clearance of anything

 

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Anyway, if its stock - and still pulling to the right., something is wrong.

You should not have to buy a camber kit for an all stock suspension. No way. I guess if something's bent - might want to check that out.

Also, go get another alignment from a different place - and have them print off the results. Also have them print out the specs. With the readings - we might be able to assist you in finding whats wrong.

If the alignment is all correct - something could be wrong in the steering. Such as the gearbox. Although not likely, you could have a bunch of air in the gearbox causing the piston to move to the right. Try "bleeding" the power steering system.

I'm pretty sure the 97+ preludes have the rack and pinion like the 4th gens........open the cap of the power steering fluid - and make sure its topped off. Turn the car on, and move the steering wheel lock-to-lock(all the way left, then all the way right).....have a friend look at the fluid level to make sure it stays topped off - have him look for the bubbles to rise out of the system. Once it stops, have him cap it off. And test drive it.

Just thought about it - you could have a bent steering knuckle....if you hit something big i guess....just a small possibility.

Also, when you turn the car on, does the steering wheel jerk?

You can also try jacking up the front of the car(on both sides) - and put rubber blocks behind the rear tires. Turn on the car, and see if the wheels start to move to the right. That could confirm the power steering.

 

wow, thanks man.. im really glad your tryin to help.. i ordered some new tires saturday.. and there supposed to be here today at 2:00.. i got those avs es 100 yokohoma tires.. there pretty good.. i've worn out my other front two.. but.. i did remember hitting a hole.. the front right tire hit it.. and it was LOUDDDD.. thats why im ready to get a camber kit or get something figured out so i dont wear out these two new tires.. they cost me 191.88 talk about gettin ripped off. 95 dollars a piece..

but i cant remember if i noticed a pulling then or not? but thats probably what did it... something bent.. broke, twisted.. something happend thats gonna cost me alot of money most likely. and again, if its anything for a SH model.. its gona be over 300 dollars.. lol ESPICALLY with the suspension factor playing a big role. now that i think about it.. if all fails, and i "do " get a camber kit.. i'll most likely get one that either barely lowers the car or doenst at all.

I'll do what you said though about having a buddy look at the bubbles coming up and jacking the front end up.. i'll do it all today. I'll post again when i get a chance.. it'll be around 7 or 8 tonight maybe.. but i appreciate your help man.

 

no prob.

Also - could you take some pictures of the tread on the tires?

We can figure out the problem that way also.

Take good pictures though.

Also see if you can get a picture of the rear of your car with the tires on. Trying to see the toe angle on those..........

well, can't see an "angle" but i can see the posisition.
See, while driving - the front toe adjusts to the rear angles. Meaning the front will be the same as the rear. Only while driving.

 

I had a problem on my 98. it kept pulling to the right real bad. It ended up being the tire. I swapped it to the left, then it pulled to the left. I just replaced all the tires, now its good to go. no pulls at all. This was after Honda checked the alignment and said it was fine.


neil

 

hey im about to have an alignment done, b/c car pulls to right (pulls hard) but today before i go to get one done i moved the front tires to the back, kept them on the same side. did a little driving and now it goes a little to the left. maybe the tires, and is the SH model harder for someone to alignment then normal cars.

 

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It could possibly be a radial pull because of your tires or play in your tie rods. Most cars don't have adjustment in the rear, but usually have some kind of adjustment in the front. My SH needed a front/rear camber kit, but thats after I lowered it on coilovers. I see people come into my work asking for alignments and are not satisfied when they get their car back because it is still slightly pulling. All the alignment specs are correct, but they have radial pulls because of their rubber.

 

thanks a lot man , also wondering if its harder for a tech.. to do an alignment on an SH model then normal cars too, if u know thanks

 

hey, guy said there is NO way to correct the camber caster.. etc.. said i would need to get a camber caster KIT.. bars everything.. idk?

 

I guess im forced to get this camber/caster thing. How much do these usually run for a SH?

What are the best one's for the money? Or if they aren't to expensive, whats the best one period so I dont have to worry about this problem again?

 

Ok, i took it to the place.. They said it didnt need an alignment it just needed a toe adjustment.. I had them to print out the paper and I will have it posted later on tomorrow most likely. Can you believe they charged me $40 dollars for that **** and it only took 5 min if that?!

 

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Yup. I cant exactly remember how much i got my ingalls front/rear camber kit 4, but it wasn't that much. Crucial component for the lowered lude.

 

camber kits are not necsessary in this situation. On my SH along with alot of other hondas...the alignment can still be within specs but eat up tires or pull. To fix my problem, we used adjustable ***** joints which work like a camber kit but in most cases are alot cheaper. They go on the unper control arm and allow you to adjust camber alot more easily...

 

Yea, I've heard of that too.. But everything on my car is working fine now.. Im fixing to look for some good shocks and struts.. you can hear the car squeek when you are pulling into a slanted driveway or when you go over a speed bump. Do you have any idea on how much that costs?