memphiss13

i think that we should all know this. why would you take this post down, i already read it and tried to go back to it and then it was gone. good looking out Atomic

IAMJUSTHERE

endyn is 4 real...and atomic isn't ****....i know both of them.

Brandon Chun

I think it should be left down, theres plenty of that stuff on the Endyn and Atomic board if someone wants to go there to read it.

freud

good looking out atomic? you dont know the half of it.

memphiss13

is this story true or is it just that somebody got their feelings hurt. i really would like to know the real story here. b/c i am planning on doing a b20 swap and i would like to know if i could trust endyn. but i guess it doesn't matter b/c now i know that i can actually go direct to wiseco. cut out the middle man

crxgurlllll

True, why bother with Endyn when you can save money and get em yerself

IAMJUSTHERE

i had endyn build my b20 vtec and had no problems....i bought something off of jeff and he lied. not only that, but he lied to me on many other times. yeah...good looking out atomic. what is especially great is how they stole katman's car...yeah good looking out atomic. do you want me to keep going on...i have friend's who know people from atomic and all of the stories are negative. the only person who you can have respect for there is dr. charles.
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[Modified by JDMCRXB18C5, 6:53 PM 7/2/2001]

memphiss13

i don't know what i was thinking i shouldn't have believed that without researching it. i still am not sure either way. he may have messed up on that one occassion. if millions of people trust this guy he can't be all bad. by the way, should i use rollerwave pistons if i am staying non-vtec.

Brandon Chun

The Rollerwave pistons are Endyns design. They are manufactured to Endyns specification, by Wiseco, so its not something you are going to be able to get directly from Wiseco. Doesnt Wiseco manufacture Mugen pistons also?

Blue-Civic-Hybrid

iTrader: (1)

Yes, Wiseco does it's outsourcing for Mugen and Endyn. You will not be able to buy Endyn's rollerwaves from Wiseco because of specific contract liabilities.

IAMJUSTHERE

non vtec or vtec it doesn't matter the endyn pistons are great. you can go with other alternatives too, and they will be good. but why go with off the shelf pistons when you can get pistons that are tailored to your specific application?

CRX_VTEC

From the outside looking in...... this whole Atomic vs. Endyn thing has been very "entertaining". I know the parties involved dont see it that way but from a third persons perspective, readng all these post is like watching soap opera. I've never dealt with either Endyn or Atomic, but I agree with Atomic on this issue...they got screwed. But also....I can care less if Endyn is out of a garage, as long as his work is good and make power..... its all good. Credibility??? Well... If California is the hot bed of import racing..... then Dr. Charles is the Godfather. Back in the day all you heard where names like Myles Buatista, Ken Mioshi,Tony Fuchs, Viet Lam, and Dr. Charles. Import Racing wouldnt be where it is today without them.... and before I knew how to work on Hondas.... I wanted to take my car to shops like Pro Import, Honda Pro, DPR, or JG because I wanted it done right. Now I know better. Big name shops dont mean big performance. Experience goes a long way and I think Dr. Charles has worked on more then his share Hondas. I dont plan on having Atomic working on my car... so theres no point for me to kiss *** here. I dont plan on buying anything from Endyn either, I'm just saying the bottom line is credibility... The Dr. has proven his to the Import scene. And when I think of shops out in Texas.... I think JoTech.... not Endyn.