socialistic

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I currently have a '90 DX hatch that I did an MPFI conversion to, and swapped over pretty much everything from my '90 Si hatch...motor, trans, linkages, complete knuckles, front brakes, master cylinder, resistor box, ecu, struts/coilovers, etc. I used the DX harness + my own wiring for the conversion which went flawlessly, no CELs, car starts/runs/drives like a champ and last night my MPG calculation was 38 after several days of strictly-highway driving.

But...my motor is blowing a crapload of smoke. It holds at around 185-190lbs per cylinder on all the compression tests I've performed, and was only blowing smoke when I would get on the throttle at the bottom of a hill. I purchased a valve cover gasket set, rocker assembly o-rings, valve seals...still blows smoke. In fact, it seems to blow more and more smoke every time I drive it extended distances...and now it's happening more often and for longer durations, rather than just a few seconds when I got on the throttle. This d16a6 isn't worth the cost of rebuilding, so I'm just gonna get a new motor.

The only motor I could find locally is an f22b, not sure if it's an f22b1 or f22b2 as I haven't seen it in person yet. I know F in to EF has been done but I can't find any solid guides on this, or an accurate list of parts needed...just random "putting f22 in my hatch" threads dating back 10 years that don't really do a good job of explaining the swap.

So what is the no-BS list of parts I need? Will I need to do any fabrication? Is there a good walkthrough out there for this swap?

If it's going to cost too much or be too much of a hassle, I'll just keep looking for another motor or grab a new one from hmotors. Another option offered to me by a friend(fabricator/welder) was to swap in his 5.0L drivetrain from a 90something F-150. As tempting as that sounds, I don't want to be without my daily driver for 6 months especially since I'll be needing it for school really soon.

dephtone

www.explicitspeedperformance.net has everything you will need to know about the F/H swap into an EF. They sell their own mounting kit as well as all the information on axles etc that you will need to use.

Hope this helps you out!

socialistic

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Thanks for the link.

They have a ton of useful info on this swap, but one of my fears was confirmed...it's going to be expensive, haha. I was thinking I could save money with this swap since I know of a local f22b for cheap, but by the time I'm done buying a mount kit and custom passenger axle, I'd end up spending more on this swap than I would just ordering a d15 vtec from hmotors which would swap right in. I'd also have to purchase the shift assembly+cables and DA knuckles, so when it's all said and done I'd easily be spending over $1000.

dephtone

I mean you can always make your own mounts etc but you would probably just be better off finding a d16a6 and converting your car to MPFI which is super simple. Everything will plug right in and everything.

socialistic

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Already done. My problem is that my d16a6 is blowing a ton of smoke still, after some diagnostics and gasket/seal replacements which means it's the rings and a rebuild on this motor isn't worth it unless I had the money to dump in to better parts to make it worthwhile. Can't find ANY D-series motors around here, except the d15b dpfi motor sitting in my driveway that came out of this car, and the rings are worse on that one.

leteg98

If by "around here" you mean your home town then take a look on the web and immerse yourself in the glory that is d16 parts. There are tons of them everywhere. A rebuild is certainly costly but you should look into a realistic cost for a swap + all the shiz that goes with it vs. a rebuild.

I have mad respects for f22 torques but be real with your moneys so it will actually work.

socialistic

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By around here I mean within up to an hour drive, the only motors I'm looking for are d15 and d16s, vtec or not, and let's be honest here...they're not worth what 99% of sellers price them at. They're throw-away motors, have been since the B-series came out. That's why I won't drive more than an hour for one.

Worst case scenario, I'll just deal with the oil consumption and rebuild this d15b block that originally came out of this car and sit on that until I find a vtec head to slap on it. Not looking to build a track car, just a reliable daily.

91STDFLOW

So wait...a f22 swap...in hopes it would be cheap and easy?
There is a reason you don't find a lot of threads on it...the engine is huge leaving very little room in the bay and the complications that come with it. Along with the extra weight etc etc... IMO you might as well go B-series or stick with the D and just get a cheap head off a "D-SERIES" site...You're right they are throw away engines hence the inexpensiveness and abundance of them and parts.

Just my 2cents

GL though with which ever route you choose!

socialistic

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I posted the thread to see what I would have to buy and what I'd have to fabricate, because I didn't know if it would be cheap/easy...all I knew was that it was possible and that a buddy has an f22b for sale for cheap. Student budget = sucks, so D-series it is.