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Old 09-19-2015, 08:19 AM
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Hey guys I have Deen looking into upgrading to a si 5speed from my 91hatch std 4speed and I was wondering if I would be able to reuse my cluchplate since it's still just about brand New or would I have to get a New one and cv axles any help is apreseated thanks again guys
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Depends on your fly wheel. There are two different spline counts. I forget which one. So if your spline count doesn't match you would have to swap out the fly wheel to match the new trans. I swapped my 4spd but that was in 1995 so I may have forgotten a few things.
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Default Re: Std 4speed to si 5speed swap

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Depends on your fly wheel. There are two different spline counts. I forget which one. So if your spline count doesn't match you would have to swap out the fly wheel to match the new trans. I swapped my 4spd but that was in 1995 so I may have forgotten a few things.
Ok I'll look into that so if they are different I have to get another clutch too right. I remember changing my cv axles and I thin they were like 32 or 28 can't remember was like a year ago so I'll have to figure it out but i bet If I go to a pick a part I could just grab it all if its there
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Default Re: Std 4speed to si 5speed swap

You can use the same STD axels. But Ya, the clutch disk would have to be replaced if the splines are different.
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Default Re: Std 4speed to si 5speed swap

the 1988 models hav eth different spline count.
if you have a 1988 and get a 1988 transmission you should be fine.
if you have a 1989-1991 you will do best to get teh 1989+ transmission, or else you would need a new clutch disc.
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Default Re: Std 4speed to si 5speed swap

Originally Posted by Hoopdie91
Hey guys I have Deen looking into upgrading to a si 5speed from my 91hatch std 4speed and I was wondering if I would be able to reuse my cluchplate since it's still just about brand New or would I have to get a New one and cv axles any help is apreseated thanks again guys
Literally, all you need is an 89-91 Si transmission (not 88). You can re-use everything else from the STD.

Pro tip: If you car has its stock STD engine (d15b1), swapping the camshaft and ECU from a d15b2 is the easiest and cheapest 20 horsepower you will ever get.
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^true!! The PM5 is a better ecu than the PM9. I noticed that the idle was smoother and overall ran better. Cam would be good too. But besides that 4sp, the dpfi is the Achilles heal in that motor.
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