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Old 05-02-2005, 05:26 AM
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Default obd-1 harness for sohc vtec d16y8 ??

I just found out the motor I have been asking a few questions about for the obd-1 harness conversion is not a d16z6 but a d16Y8. I believe that is an obd2 motor if I'm not wrong but is a little stronger. Does the obd-1 harness and all work the same for a y8 going into a crx? I am getting a good deal on the motor but dont want to get it if it will only be half right. Thanks again
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anyone?
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what distributer are you using??......an obd1 distributer won't fit up right to the y8 head.....I asked these questions a little while ago and no one really answered me. I don't know if you can even convert the y8 to run obd 1 because you need the obd 1 dizzy but I think you can run it obd 0 because your obd 0 dizzy will bolt up (if it is an si dizzy) then you don't even have to worry about converting to obd 1 then just get your ecu tuned for the y8 so it has the proper fuel maps and use an rpm activated switch for vtec.....I may be way wrong so no one quote me but I was thinkin about goin this route and this was the solution I came up with.
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there is another thread on this a little lower already you should loook at it.....they where talking like you can convert it to obd 1 but no one has answered the question about the dizzy....because that is the only place I could seee that it would be diffferent than an obd1.....I bet if you used the y8 dizzy and had the guys @ rywire convert it to run an obd 1 plug it would work fine.....heck I even got an extra y89 dizzy I need to get rid of let me know if you want it. (the wires are cut already)
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thats what im trying to see if all the y8 stuff can be converted with that same rywire.com harness or if its all totally different than obd1. If I buy this motor I want it to run like its meant to run meaning preferably no rpm activated switch. I want it done right thats why I'm asking if all the harness stuff is the same or what I would have to do.
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You need to make your cars harness fit on the y8. If you want to go obd1, thats fine. You can still use the obd2 distributor, and the obd2 injectors, but you will need the obd1 ecu (p28).

I will need your cars harness, and the y8 harness to borrow the plugs from. It will still be all plug and play. Its the same swap as the z6, just different plug ends really... and the distributor needs to me modded a little different because it only has 1 8 pin plug.


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OBD1 and OBD2 distributors are compatible so you can keep the one that came with the engine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by droppedcrxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its the same swap as the z6, just different plug ends really... and the distributor needs to me modded a little different because it only has 1 8 pin plug.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Yeah I am just making sure it isnt going to be a killer thing to make it obd1 thats how I want it running basically I want it right but if this isnt going to be as good of a deal as I thought then I will wait for a z6 thats what im trying to figure out
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anyone else gone through all of this?
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nobody has a d16y8 in there crx running obd1?
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Ok I have been searching it seems to run this obd2 motor obd1 in an obd0 car I would need the rywire complete obd1 conversion harness. To switch the injector plugs to obd2 so i can run the stock y8 ones. a 4 wire o2 sensor from rywire. and an obd1 distributor with the p28 ecu. Is that all?
And my question is that I have read people saying use an obd1 distributor. But other people say it doesnt bolt up to the y8 head then some people say 1 bolt will bolt up and will hold it. What are my choices there and does anyone know which statements are true?
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obd 1 and obd 2 dizzys are basically the same (I think) except that they have different plugs and bolt up differently....I say use the obd 2 dizzy and send it to rywire and for about 30 bucks they will put on an obd 1 plug or an obd 0 plug whichever you prefer.....I wouldn't use 1 bolt to hold your dizzy in because IMO it is a little ghetto.....that is my .02 and anyone can correct me if I am incorrect
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exactly i want it all done right. So you are saying they will change the plug on the whole distributor to make it an obd1 distributor? Thats what I would do if so or even if they will sell me the plug when I buy the harness.
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yeah I called them a little bit ago since I got an obd1 dizzy that has an obd2 plug on it and I don't want to mess around with it so I called them and asked them to put an obd 0 plug or an obd 1 plug on it and they told me it would be 30 bucks......I dunno I think that is what you should do. Right now I have an obd 1 dizzy with the dizzy adapter (from rywire) that allows it to plug right into my obd 0 plug that is why either one would work for me.
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Ok, see how your obd2 dizzy is only 1 8 pin plug? (please verify)

Now, obd1 sohc vtec dizzys are 1 8 pin (7 used) and a 2nd 2 wire plug...

This becomes a problem, the best bet is to get a obd0-2a/b d series dizzy jumper. thats a special order that I have only done 1 other time so far... it was for crxgator here on h-t. He posted a pic somewhere....

The best thing to do is to send both harnesses to me because you need the obd2 injector clips done anyway...

So just sit back and let me work my magic
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PS, dont send the dizzy i dont need that... Also, its not good to mess with it, because if you ever have to change it (the dizzy) it will have to be modded again.
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Yeah thats what I want done and done irght but which distributor would I be using my obd2 or obd0 one? And then injector clips I do need done as well you are right so I can run the obd2 ones. Thanks
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Yes, run the obd2 injectors, and use the obd2 dizzy....
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You are too awsome when I pick up the motor this weekend I will send you the y8 harness but do you need my hf one as well if so that will have to wait until i pull the motor which might be a little while.
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why not just run a 92-95 DX/LX distro?

thats one issue solved they go for cheaper then the y8 (so sell yours)

another thing they mount perfect all 3 holes mount up and everything and u dont have to hack up the harness...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nerologic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not just run a 92-95 DX/LX distro?

thats one issue solved they go for cheaper then the y8 (so sell yours)

another thing they mount perfect all 3 holes mount up and everything and u dont have to hack up the harness...</TD></TR></TABLE> I run dx dizzy from 92 + civic with my y8 and a p28 .
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yeah thats exactly what crx control was telling me his is a dx one and all the holes line up that is the best bet, then i wouldnt have to send the harness in to be modified if i find obd1 injectors again.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si2See &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah thats exactly what crx control was telling me his is a dx one and all the holes line up that is the best bet, then i wouldnt have to send the harness in to be modified if i find obd1 injectors again. </TD></TR></TABLE>

or u can swap the harness clips your self
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Yeah I think we can do that for the injectors that appers to be easy. i will just have to buy an obd1 distributor.
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Ok, I wasent aware that you didnt have the y8 dizzy, i assumed that that came with the eng swap.

So if you go this route, and stay with the obd0 injectors, all you need really is a 0-1 dizzy jumper, 0-1 ecu jumper, and vtec sub harness.
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for the obd1 dizzy, use one from civic DX 92-95 not the SI one, it wont fit properly! the DX one bolt on the head like the original one, this is what i have on mine!

i do have a D16Y8 with obd0-obd1 ecu harness jumper running a p28, and manualy convert the dizzy wiring to fit the DX one!!

it' an easy thing to do... they are only 2 wire that arent the same color on the dizzy!!



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