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Old 03-01-2011, 05:14 PM
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Love it. I want to see it finished.
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Originally Posted by K7-1Ktrevor
I appreciate you taking the constructive criticism well. not trying to change your mind just hoping you know what your getting into. after looking at the h.t. with the J swapped crx it really didn't look as bad as I thought as far as ground clearance and how high the motor sat. did you notice how there wasn't even room to put a intake on it though lol.

a J in your ef will definitely be unique. I really hope you finish the project.

what are your plans for engine management? just running a hacked stock ecu for now?
Well, not hacked. Tri-Tech is making the harness and modifying the ecu for me. Though I'm not sure exactly which ecu it is yet. I'll find out when it gets here. Later on, if I change to FI or ITB, then I'll change to whatever ecu/management system necessary.
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On the topic of weight distribution, if the car is mainly gonna utilize the engine, drag racing would be wat it will be best at. More weight in the front=better traction. Torques=yourcar
Why does (nearly) everyone think that 50:50 weight distribution is best for handling? That is only the optimal ratio under very specific circumstances, which are RWD and steady state cornering.

At 62:38, my Integra needs more of it's weight up front to handle better. The front tires do everything, the rears just keep the gas tank from dragging. I'd be happier with 70:30...

OP, you're really going to want an LSD if the Accord tranny didn't come with one. Whether you want straight line or cornering performance, a good LSD will benefit both.
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An LSD is on the mental list of other stuff to get, but its not a primary concern at this time.

BTW, Sorry for not having any updates yet, just been workin. I don't have a lot of free time lately.
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Why does (nearly) everyone think that 50:50 weight distribution is best for handling? That is only the optimal ratio under very specific circumstances, which are RWD and steady state cornering.

At 62:38, my Integra needs more of it's weight up front to handle better. The front tires do everything, the rears just keep the gas tank from dragging. I'd be happier with 70:30...

OP, you're really going to want an LSD if the Accord tranny didn't come with one. Whether you want straight line or cornering performance, a good LSD will benefit both.
Difference in opinion. 50/50 allows a more neutrel car. You are right about the front wheels doing all the work that is why a more balance state is better I feel. Excess weight in the front leads to nose diving and pushing in corners. My CRX and my turbo Probe need more weight in the rear as they tend to get rear light when heavy braking into corners which leads to unstable entry if I'm not careful.

And cool article on the swapped Hondas. The J fist way better than I thought it would. Wonder why the engine stuck at so much in the car at Wekfest. Maybe because it was slammed it needed the engine to be higher??
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My CRX and my turbo Probe need more weight in the rear as they tend to get rear light when heavy braking into corners which leads to unstable entry if I'm not careful.

This is because your suspension and brake-bias isn't setup properly. It has nothing to do with needing to add more weight.

Sure, if you could *transfer* weight, that would be fine. But, you really can't do that significantly in a FWD car. So, it comes down to suspension setup--which you probably need to tweak if your car gets that light in the corners.
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they also have minimum weight requirements. so they take all the weight out of the car they can and add back in the weight to get it up to scale only in the places they want.
Bingo. No one who races on tarmac says "let's add weight to the car to make it faster".

Physics tells one that with two identical cars, the one that weighs the less will get through the corner quicker and accelerate faster. How is adding a hundred lbs or so going to allow the (already over-stressed) front tires to turn a car faster? That's rhetorical, because it won't.
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Bingo. No one who races on tarmac says "let's add weight to the car to make it faster".

Physics tells one that with two identical cars, the one that weighs the less will get through the corner quicker and accelerate faster. How is adding a hundred lbs or so going to allow the (already over-stressed) front tires to turn a car faster? That's rhetorical, because it won't.
well my car weighs 4000 pounds all on the front tires and i have huge slicks out back to help it handle the fwd power!!!!!!!! it handles like a frickin dream!!!!
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I had a few minutes today after work, so here is the mock up. I'm goin to have this sent out to have tig welded after I'm done preparing it.

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cant wait to see that motor wedged under the hood of that hatch
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Hey you're doing a good job you have actually got the motor, tranny, and a few other things before asking questions lol. You are doing awesome, but i think that you should get it running before thinking about turboes. Although turboes would be awesome, but I would get it running first. Also it is not my build just giving ideas.
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Turbos, paint and all of that stuff is later on. I'm going to get everything running first.
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In for end results. Keep up the good work!
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subscribed son! this is gonna be sick as **** your money your car do what you want bro i for one am subscribed and all in for this dam thing im gonna love the outcome. Luck on the build man. ive just bought my first ef hatch ever and im lovin it! and i normally dislike 4th gen model hondas. but this car is great! check my build first time for everything.
Old 03-03-2011, 11:42 AM
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I just had a thought, I'd like to see someone do a j swap in a EF 4 door or wagovan. That would be awesome. Hell, if I wanted to, I could just transfer this swap to another chassis later on.
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v6 wagon sounds pretty sweet.
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I can't wait to see this build done, I am tryin to pick up a 4 dr right now. haven't decided on what swap I wanna go with, might do a j later on down the road. Keep up the good work bro.
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people are seriously gonna talk **** over hood clearance? get a F'ing grip you pansies. who cares. the car handles like a lil red wagon with the stock 1.5 that came in it. its a 500 dollar car. if he wants to drop a good motor in there to laught at the 4banger kids then give him credit. dont get butthurt cuz you spent 2500 on your b16 swap that wont get out of its own way.
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lol. you have obviously never had a "big block" honda. there are alot of issues that come with the bigger motor. its a complete bitch to work on anything. Iv been there. my h22 made good power. I ran 12.5 first pass in a full weight ef sedan with quiet exhaust on it. all Im saying is if your going for big power a turbo d or B series is the way to go.
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Yes, this motor will a complete pain in the *** to work on. My best bet will be to pull the engine out for any major repair

I feel all of this money and time and money will be worth it in the end. I'm not buying cheap parts, I have plenty of people and resources to help me along the way. This is going to be a very well built machine.
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i love it! keep it up, i was honestly debating this swap for a few months. Let me know how the wiring/ecu set-up goes or pm me with the info. mad props for diving into this build
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there is no bigblock honda unless youre talkin about those clowns who threw a chevy ontop of the car. haha last i checked the bigger the motor the more the turbo kit is going to do for it. the bore/stroke is better than a h series motor and bseries swaps are retarded money for trackable reliability. maybe he got a deal on the motor & actually knows a thing or two. maybe he has a boat anchor that will bend this lil unibody after its first run. either way ide love to see it, cuz i can get the same motor and tranny cheaper than i can a b18 with cable tranny
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people are seriously gonna talk **** over hood clearance? get a F'ing grip you pansies. who cares. the car handles like a lil red wagon with the stock 1.5 that came in it. its a 500 dollar car. if he wants to drop a good motor in there to laught at the 4banger kids then give him credit. dont get butthurt cuz you spent 2500 on your b16 swap that wont get out of its own way.
People in the honda scene have never heard of the great american past time of hot ridding where you take the smallest car and shove the biggest motor you cash find into it... lol


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