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Old 09-18-2009, 07:40 PM
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It is good to see that honda-tech is still a hotbed of misinformation. Your alignment has much more to do with straight line stability than anything else. Oh right and get a swaybar because a part that is literally deadweight on a straightaway will really help stability. Geometry only makes a difference on how big a piece of pie any one aspect of handling gets. A superior geometry might be able to max out cornering tire patch and still leave some for the straight line. Look at the camber angle on new McPherson style suspension race cars and then say...an EF. I wonder how the Ep3 race car ever put any power down to the ground. Stiffer springs raised in equal relation front and back quicken the response of the car and make if feel more stable also essentialy broaden the range of the geometry as the control arms move less (thus the changes in camber, caster and toe)as well as limiting the small amount of weight transfer that occurs purely because the body is at an angle to the chassis. Swaybars are essentially a way of jacking up the springrate on the front or back of the car around corners ONLY. The geometry so, camber gain from an ef to an ek is almost the exact same. If your car is unstable on the highway then looking into tires and then loose joints in the suspension IS valid. Not every EF needs all new ball joints and tie rods. It is true not alot of downforce is built into the EF. no more downforce is built into any later model civic however.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:40 AM
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Rear toe is critical to stability. You want the rear toed in slightly. Well designed rear wings also keep the rear planted at speed instead of allowing lift. (I run a Mugen Gen 1 on my DC2 Integra.) A low Cd is not always best for high speed stability. Most low Cd designs produce significant lift at speed, which can lead to instability.
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Originally Posted by redflaredcrx90
why would you let that comment come out of ya mouth. you build hondas for looks and speed . and your a damm lie if you say you dont speed or get on the throttle.
X2 ROFL
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Old 09-19-2009, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Driven
let me know what you would do when the back end steps out at 100mph...do you:
a. cry.
b. steer out of it, while lifting off the gas
c. give it more gas, while steering out of it
d. both feet in.
e. wish you had the driving skill to know which is the right answer in the first place... knowing that doing triple digit speeds on a public roadway is utterly moronic.


BESIDES that... i think the TECH aspect of this thread has been addressed.
c. dorriiffttooo!!!!

yall are some chicken *****. i bet you wouldnt even go over 80 on the az salt flats.
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c. dorriiffttooo!!!!

yall are some chicken *****. i bet you wouldnt even go over 80 on the az salt flats.
No. We just understand that there is a time and a place for things.

For your scenario on the I15 in the middle of nowhere with no traffic: a tire blows, you fly off of the road and roll, and they find your body a week later because your couldn't exit from your overturned car.
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No. We just understand that there is a time and a place for things.

For your scenario on the I15 in the middle of nowhere with no traffic: a tire blows, you fly off of the road and roll, and they find your body a week later because your couldn't exit from your overturned car.
why is everything worst case scenario with you guys. you encourage the idea of building high hp cars and replacing simple parts as well as getting good gas milage. but some one says one thing opposite or logically wrong in your eyes, everyone hops on the band wagon to say yay or nay. what the crap
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No, it is called risk management. Legality aside, you are in the middle of nowhere and there is no emergency support if something does go wrong. Someday you will understand.
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9 concutions, 1 gun shot, a stab wound, and lots of car accidents later, i still dont see the difference.
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Originally Posted by sh!ft
9 concutions, 1 gun shot, a stab wound, and lots of car accidents later, i still dont see the difference.
Why would you advocate such reckless behavior?

15 and 16 sec hondas are the absolute worst in terms of behavior.
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Why would you advocate such reckless behavior?

15 and 16 sec hondas are the absolute worst in terms of behavior.
i would have to agree with you but assuming you mean some one elses car. not mine
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the eg chassis is stiffer that the ef chassis....good luck.
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Originally Posted by sh!ft
i would have to agree with you but assuming you mean some one elses car. not mine
Sorry, I mistakenly attributed that behavior to you.
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Originally Posted by JOE BD-0
the eg chassis is stiffer that the ef chassis....good luck.
and the tie bars as well as the strut mount bars dont help?? what about these? these MUST be computer generated or a pigment of some ones imagination




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Old 09-19-2009, 04:34 PM
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ive topped out my speedometer a few times (I75 speed limit is 70mph and @ 6:00am its absolutely empty) and my CRX feels great at speeds over 80! it really seems to smooth out but i can tell you, if your tires arent up to par, it can be a totally different experience. ive only taken the car to those speeds because it excepted it with no poblems but i wouldnt recomend anybody else doing this unles you %110 sure f your cars condition....Plus im an idiot so...lol
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Well. You all insist on taking this on a path of taboo. I do what I must.
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