Oval55rag

Will a d16a6 cam drop in a stock d15b2. I could get a cam for free. I don't want to do the mpfi swap because I am waiting for my b18a. I have all the plugs to do the electrical part for the mpfi, just don't want to spend money on a6 mani and other ****.


[Modified by Oval55rag, 7:03 PM 3/29/2003]

G2turbo_terror

it'll work.

likaciv

Is it worth the power increase???

If any

subgeniusdude

Yeah,it'll work but from what I understand you'll need an adjustable cam gear...it's probably not worth it on the DPFI since its optimized for economy.

blackZC (W)

i had a spare a6 cam so i put it in my 4dr automatic when i replaced the head gasket. i didnt see any difference.

likaciv

anyone have a spare I could take off your hands?

91civicEX

i put an a6 cam in my beater. if you buy the cam its not worth it.

likaciv

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicLX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i put an a6 cam in my beater. if you buy the cam its not worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just need somthing to help this beater merge a little easier one the expressway, ive read this cam gives a tad more midrange.

JonGP4

if u have the MPFI swap and are running a SI ECU then yes you will see a noticable difference.. for me.. i noticed the difference was in the top end.. the motor before just seemed to run out of power past 5k.. after the cam.. and adjusted valves it seemed to just want to rev all the way to redline without a problem.. i definitly noticed a difference.. not as much as a ZC swap tho.. hehe
which is why i'm selling 2 IM me.. if your interested.. its worth the 65 bucks.. IMO

edit: one of these cams i'm selling came off a friend of mines car who is going VTEC.. anyways, he ran his car without it.. ran about 17.4s after he swaped it in.. no other mods.. he ran a 17.2 its not much.. but it helpped.. he said he noticed a difference..

undefinedcrx

itll drop right in....you might have to advance the cam gear a few degrees though.

likaciv

what exactly is the mpfi swap?

I really dont want to dump alot of money into this, i used to think my d16z6 was the **** in my ex, til i got a b18c . . . only then did i realize that dumping so much money into the sohc was a total waste.

I just a little more power, maybe an ex header and bigger exhaust? I can get all this **** for under 50$

sohcvtec66

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by likaciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what exactly is the mpfi swap</TD></TR></TABLE>

OK....say if u have a 88-91 crx or civic dx (d15b2) 90hp,pm5 ecu, they have a dual port fuel injection,,which is only good for saving gas, that is it,


NOW.. u can get the multi-port fuel injection, for around 50-$100 (intake manifold)
do they wiring to MPFI, get a pm6 ecu (si ecu) and a a6 dizzy, install time for us about 40 mins,, and if u put a more agressive cam in, like the crx si (d16a6) its way better than the less agressive dx cam, and u get a si/ex tranny (d16a6),
with these simple mod, from your crx dx automatic, to mpfi swap,si dizzy,re-wire a6 cam, it is like night and day.. your not gonna beat any gsr's but with a good tune, and good clutch, and 94 octane, u can beat some single slam vtec's. with good driving skill's, if you dont know use the search button at the top right-hand side of the screen ,tend's to help alot.... hope u understand better now...

sohcvtec66

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackZC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had a spare a6 cam so i put it in my 4dr automatic when i replaced the head gasket. i didnt see any difference. </TD></TR></TABLE>

KEYWORD: automatic and 4 door, Did u advance your cam at all? did u re-set your ecu? did u retard your dizzy? did u re-tune your car? simple tuning, can make or break your car's performance...FYI

likaciv

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OK....say if u have a 88-91 crx or civic dx (d15b2) 90hp,pm5 ecu, they have a dual port fuel injection,,which is only good for saving gas, that is it,


NOW.. u can get the multi-port fuel injection, for around 50-$100 (intake manifold)
do they wiring to MPFI, get a pm6 ecu (si ecu) and a a6 dizzy, install time for us about 40 mins,, and if u put a more agressive cam in, like the crx si (d16a6) its way better than the less agressive dx cam, and u get a si/ex tranny (d16a6),
with these simple mod, from your crx dx automatic, to mpfi swap,si dizzy,re-wire a6 cam, it is like night and day.. your not gonna beat any gsr's but with a good tune, and good clutch, and 94 octane, u can beat some single slam vtec's. with good driving skill's, if you dont know use the search button at the top right-hand side of the screen ,tend's to help alot.... hope u understand better now... </TD></TR></TABLE>


Thanks chief, dont know if i want to put any more money into this peice, but its somthing to consider!

sohcvtec66

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by likaciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Thanks chief, dont know if i want to put any more money into this peice, but its somthing to consider!</TD></TR></TABLE>


ok, thn just get a 5 speed tranny, **** the cam, and do the mpfi...

likaciv

I think i could live with the lx trans, i am intrigued at the idea of this mpfi transformation, any more power for passing or coming out of the tollbooths is much needed.

From what I can imagine in my head this new mani is gonna have to come with the tb and all sensors, and for the new ecu, injector wires are gonna have to be run. As far as the new distrib, does it require any wires, and can it come off any d series.

Honestly what kind of power increase are we talking, is it gonna be worth trying to hunt these parts down for?

Thanks

Big O

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by likaciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NOW.. u can get the multi-port fuel injection, for around 50-$100 (intake manifold)
do they wiring to MPFI, get a pm6 ecu (si ecu) and a a6 dizzy, install time for us about 40 mins,, and if u put a more agressive cam in, like the crx si (d16a6) its way better than the less agressive dx cam, and u get a si/ex tranny (d16a6),
with these simple mod, from your crx dx automatic, to mpfi swap,si dizzy,re-wire a6 cam, it is like night and day.. your not gonna beat any gsr's but with a good tune, and good clutch, and 94 octane, u can beat some single slam vtec's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Can't you use the pm5 dist? I thought the pm5 and pm6 dist were the same?

Newt Dog

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIG O &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Can't you use the pm5 dist? I thought the pm5 and pm6 dist were the same?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are the same.. The connecter is different. One is round and the other is square. Repin the one you want to use and it should work.. Make sure the two dissy's have the same amount of teeth..

UNDER PRESSURE

Not to hijack the thread but i have the MPFI swap in my 4 door D15B2 along with a integra throttle body, fuel rail and injectors, and si ecu. I can get a si cam for free from my cousin, now my question is if I swap the cam out of the D15B2 for a D16A6 cam do I need a cam gear or can I just drop the si cam in?

tgreaves

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIG O &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Can't you use the pm5 dist? I thought the pm5 and pm6 dist were the same?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The pm5 is missing some stuff needed for mpfi.. A pm6 dizzy will bolt right up but you need to repin and add 2 wires for the conversion..

tgreaves

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by likaciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think i could live with the lx trans, i am intrigued at the idea of this mpfi transformation, any more power for passing or coming out of the tollbooths is much needed.

From what I can imagine in my head this new mani is gonna have to come with the tb and all sensors, and for the new ecu, injector wires are gonna have to be run. As far as the new distrib, does it require any wires, and can it come off any d series.

Honestly what kind of power increase are we talking, is it gonna be worth trying to hunt these parts down for?

Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

Very big power increase going from dpfi to mpfi.. You need to run 4 new wires into the engine compartment from the ecu and need to switch I think its 2 wires at the ecu.. Not really all that hard if you do it step by step..

As far as hunting down the parts its easy.. Any d series mpfi intake manifold will work.. Im using the one from a 93 civic dx.. The dizzy has to be from a obd0 mpfi car, Mine is from a 91 crx hf.. Let me know if you need any more help..

Akiraboy

Are d15b2 cranks forged?

UNDER PRESSURE

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UNDER PRESSURE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Not to hijack the thread but i have the MPFI swap in my 4 door D15B2 along with a integra throttle body, fuel rail and injectors, and si ecu. I can get a si cam for free from my cousin, now my question is if I swap the cam out of the D15B2 for a D16A6 cam do I need a cam gear or can I just drop the si cam in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can somebody throw me a bone here?

HumanResource

Nah need a cam gear to get the most out of it
it'll actually lose power if you don't from what I understand from Mista Bone's Writings

UNDER PRESSURE

Kool thanx, I'll im him about it.