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Old 12-16-2004, 05:52 PM
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okay i have a 91 hatchback si with rear drum brakes and my emergency brake does not work it barley worked so thats why i changed the drums shoes and hardware kit and still nothing no leaking or anything so i replaced both the brake cables and still nothing iam getting pissed i hate drum brakes but i need help i need my E brake!

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maybe your cable is broken
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i just replaced both of them !
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what about the self adjuster? did you tighten it up?
Old 12-17-2004, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: 91 hatch rear drum brakes need help ?!?!?!?! (baseballinmyass)

everything was tightend and placed right iam gonna buy a wheel cylinder rebuild kit today and replace that and look over everything again but as far as i know everything is correct .
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remove you center ebrake cover thingy.

there is a 12mm nut with one cable going to the ebrake handle and a bracket with 2 cables on the other side of it.

tighten that up and see if it gets better. if not you should stick your head under your car and inspec the ebrake cables to make sure that htey are not severed and that they are mounted to the chassis correctly.
Old 12-18-2004, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: 91 hatch rear drum brakes need help ?!?!?!?! (kylefakesi-r)

i know all of that i replaced both cables and tightend everything and what not no kinks in cables nothing so its not the cables.
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well at eh end of the cable inside the drum is it attached to the shoe correctly?
Old 12-18-2004, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: 91 hatch rear drum brakes need help ?!?!?!?! (kylefakesi-r)

And you're POSITIVE you adjusted the adjuster in the drum? ....IE the little star thingy


Did you put the pads on
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Did you try adjusting your ebrake cables?
Old 12-18-2004, 02:39 PM
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tryed it all .
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If ya tried it all! That means one thing...tuner error. Try again and check it by the Helms standards.

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Old 12-18-2004, 03:24 PM
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i looked at the manual no help !
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With the drums off pull on the e-brake does the parking brake arm on shoes move?
Old 12-18-2004, 04:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by localmotion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the drums off pull on the e-brake does the parking brake arm on shoes move?</TD></TR></TABLE>


gonna do that havent had anyone around to help me .
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It's the cylinder's in your drums, same thing happened to me, you just need to replace them and probably get new drums (the casing) as well. I did that and mine are good to go.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhetorical &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's the cylinder's in your drums, same thing happened to me, you just need to replace them and probably get new drums (the casing) as well. I did that and mine are good to go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool thanks for the info!
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When using the e-brake, doesn't it not use the wheel cylinders? Isn't the brake held purely on cable tension and not rely on any hydraulics? How could replacing the wheel cylinders or doing anything with the hydraulic system affect the e-brake?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When using the e-brake, doesn't it not use the wheel cylinders? Isn't the brake held purely on cable tension and not rely on any hydraulics? How could replacing the wheel cylinders or doing anything with the hydraulic system affect the e-brake?</TD></TR></TABLE>


thats actually the same thing i was thinking but didnt want to say anything ! ?
Old 12-20-2004, 06:08 PM
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^ ^ ^ ^ dude you have to ask questions and when answers to the question dont make sence then ask questions about the answer or you'll get nowhere fast...id recommend going back and do a run thrue on what you did make sure tension springs are on correctly, cotter pins...etc....or you can save ur self the trouble and buy the rear disc conversion i got for sale in the garage! (he he shameless sales pitch) anyway good luck on the fix.....
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i would just do the disc break swap
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Not very cost or time affective, but wouldn't hurt. Didn't 91 Si's have rear discs anyways?

yeah, wheel cylinders are for the hydraulic setup, nothing to do with the e-brake at all. Its pretty simple, you just need to find the problem... If the shoes aren't moving at all when you pull the ebrake, then the cables are either the wrong ones (considering you don't have the drums on an Si), or they are improperly adjusted, or not installed right.
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yeah thats what i thought..
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i always thought Si's were rear disc equiped untill i noticed that my brother's and 3 other friends SI's were drum...im the only hatch (dx) w/ disc in the bunch due to conversion but im yet to see a stock si on disc's.....


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