89 Civic Si Hb....2nd Gen B16...1/4 still whack.....help...
07-17-2003, 09:37 AM
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89 Civic Si Hb....2nd Gen B16...1/4 still whack.....help...
sup guys.........last time i posted my car was running like 16's wid a b16 in an si ef......whack...stock evertyhing.....its a 2nd gen b16 running obd...pr3 ecu, throwing no codes, vtec is working, 2 1/4 piping.....rolling on rota c8's wid 195/50/15 kumho's.....new cap rotor, plugs, plug wires....timing is stock....best i ran yesterday.....15.648.....consistent......before i ran anything from 15.8-16.2's.......found a little problem.....awhile after the first time i ran.....i had a clogged cat...so i replaced it and went back to the track yesterday....still whack times.....trap speed before was around 84-86.....now trap is 87-89......still pretty slow for b16.......what the f*%k is the problem?!?!? what do you guys think about this?!?!?! i need all the help........i'd be happy wid low 15's.....i still dont know how yall east coast cats running 14's n ishh......
07-17-2003, 09:40 AM
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Re: 89 Civic Si Hb....2nd Gen B16...1/4 still whack.....help... (richierich)
You're right, that is pretty slow. See sig. All I have is I/E, and a stock ancient cat. Is your engine healthy, compression and leakdown tested? Maybe you have screwed up injectors? Which tranny are you running?
07-17-2003, 10:02 AM
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y1 tranny, compression is good...190 all across....yea really hah learn how to drive....would a bad tie rod screw me over with times?!?!? just noticed that its starting to make a loud pop.......im launching around 4-5k.....minimal spinning.....id be damn happy with 14.9..hahahah
07-17-2003, 10:06 AM
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Re: 89 Civic Si Hb....2nd Gen B16...1/4 still whack.....help... (slowpokesi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">learn how to drive</TD></TR></TABLE>
Biggest thing right here. If you suck at drag racing, it'll show. Try having a known good driver drive it and see what times he gets. Oh yeah, the Y1 isn't the greatest drag racing tranny either.
Biggest thing right here. If you suck at drag racing, it'll show. Try having a known good driver drive it and see what times he gets. Oh yeah, the Y1 isn't the greatest drag racing tranny either.
07-17-2003, 10:15 AM
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learning how to drive...was my sarcasm........my bad........i drive perfectly fine.........if my motor was running too hot...would that have to do with performance problems.......?!?! i mean....im running on a sohc radiator....was considering upgrading to a 90-93 radiator if it helps any?!?!...........
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07-17-2003, 10:31 AM
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Re: (richierich)
i noticed you're from california...what track did you run your car at? i started out running 15.6's with my b16 crx before practice, and am now hitting 14.9's all day at PALMDALE (3000+ft above sealevel). i went to fontana, a better track (and lower elevation), and ran a best of 14.0...
07-17-2003, 10:38 AM
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northern california..infineon raceway (aka sears point)...dont know what the elevation is at but still got nice 90 degree weather 
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Modified by richierich at 12:00 PM 7/17/2003
.Modified by richierich at 12:00 PM 7/17/2003
07-17-2003, 11:49 AM
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Welcome to the "I have a swap "Me a turbo" and my car runs the 1/4mile like *** club 
"For the next time I race Im planning on getting a DX trans instead of Si "heard you can hold 3rd gear down the track" get my Zdyne Tuned, After that Gut my cat. And after that drop the car off a cliff 
"For the next time I race Im planning on getting a DX trans instead of Si "heard you can hold 3rd gear down the track" get my Zdyne Tuned, After that Gut my cat. And after that drop the car off a cliff
07-17-2003, 12:56 PM
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Re: 89 Civic Si Hb....2nd Gen B16...1/4 still whack.....help... (richierich)
Its gotta be one of three things. Either you cant drive, its a crappy track,
or your motor is beat. I have a 91 CRX si, which is heavier than your car.
I also have a 2nd gen B16a which i was running on a PW0 ecu.
I was running consistent 15.2s with 95-96mph trap speeds.
Those trap speeds are good for low 14s, but unfortuantly i couldnt get any
better than a 2.6 60ft, due to my bald POS kuhmos.
To give you an idea on my tires, they were spinning up to redline
at a measly 2.5k launch. ACK! Thats waht i get for going to the track with
bald tires though, lol.
Motor was bone stock 2nd gen B16a. This was on a HOT day too mind you.
I suggest you do a compression check on your motor. And get a tune up
before you go next time, an oil change and new set of plugs makes a big
difference sometimes. Good luck beating on your car.
or your motor is beat. I have a 91 CRX si, which is heavier than your car.
I also have a 2nd gen B16a which i was running on a PW0 ecu.
I was running consistent 15.2s with 95-96mph trap speeds.
Those trap speeds are good for low 14s, but unfortuantly i couldnt get any
better than a 2.6 60ft, due to my bald POS kuhmos.
To give you an idea on my tires, they were spinning up to redline
at a measly 2.5k launch. ACK! Thats waht i get for going to the track with
bald tires though, lol.
Motor was bone stock 2nd gen B16a. This was on a HOT day too mind you.
I suggest you do a compression check on your motor. And get a tune up
before you go next time, an oil change and new set of plugs makes a big
difference sometimes.
Good luck beating on your car.
07-17-2003, 01:19 PM
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ive already done tune ups ..........alwayz have new oil before racing.........**** just doesnt make any sense...........it could be the track.........
07-17-2003, 01:54 PM
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truthfully I don't think the track should be slowing u down close to 2 seconds. Sometimes you just need some good practice...running on the track and street really are 2 different ball games. What kinda 60 foot times were you laying down? That is really where the truth lies. Then again there could be something wrong with your tranny but like someone already said, u don't exactly have an ideal d/r tranny.
07-17-2003, 01:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sweetcarz.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">truthfully I don't think the track should be slowing u down close to 2 seconds. Sometimes you just need some good practice...running on the track and street really are 2 different ball games. What kinda 60 foot times were you laying down? That is really where the truth lies. Then again there could be something wrong with your tranny but like someone already said, u don't exactly have an ideal d/r tranny. </TD></TR></TABLE>
JOooooooooeyyyyyyyyyyy!
Yeah practice makes perfect - im sure everything that could be said already has been. Check to see if you got codes, make sure its throwing codes (unhook something safe and see if it finds it) maybe you got some wires cross or somethin. Who knows, play with it
JOooooooooeyyyyyyyyyyy!
Yeah practice makes perfect - im sure everything that could be said already has been. Check to see if you got codes, make sure its throwing codes (unhook something safe and see if it finds it) maybe you got some wires cross or somethin. Who knows, play with it
07-17-2003, 02:48 PM
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it doesnt make sence sometime..... zc in a 2nd gen crx first time at the track i ran 17.3's second time at the track 16.8's and all i did was get ride of the cat.... i think its just your driving or atleast thats my problam 
07-17-2003, 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZC88CRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt make sence sometime..... zc in a 2nd gen crx first time at the track i ran 17.3's second time at the track 16.8's and all i did was get ride of the cat.... i think its just your driving or atleast thats my problam </TD></TR></TABLE>
And I don't see how you can be running that slow with a ZC either, no offense at all. I mean, shifting in to fourth at 6000 RPM with my old bonestock A6 I ran a 16.8.
</TD></TR></TABLE>And I don't see how you can be running that slow with a ZC either, no offense at all. I mean, shifting in to fourth at 6000 RPM with my old bonestock A6 I ran a 16.8.
07-17-2003, 03:23 PM
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could it be the bad tie rod problem i have??!?!?! and this is my suspension setup........ground control coilovers all around w/ tokico illuminas in front and blues in back......i am going to upgrade this soon....
07-17-2003, 04:21 PM
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even the tie rod wouldn't cause that. what are you launching/shifting at? the 60ft was a 2.4? it seems to me that the motor is beat b/c I have a DOHC ZC w/ boltons & I can keep up w/ lightly modded RSX Type S. I haven't been to teh track yet, but even I am running low 15's, very high 14's. Sorry bro.
07-17-2003, 04:26 PM
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yea very dissapointed with this damn motor.....the whole point of swappin is to feel faster.......this **** is bascially barely faster than my stock d16a6 motor........probably need valve adjustment ........compression is still good......and i did the motor flush stuff..........someones got to know something........i need to take it to the dyno and see wassup ........but dyno runs cost to much money and i think its postless if i dont got any parts to tune the motor with.....
07-17-2003, 06:30 PM
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Get the dyno done. It will cost less than a $100 and you'll know right away if there is something wrong with your engine. Stock, you should be getting about 130HP out of a 160HP (at the crank) engine.