*garage find* 89 civic hatch
#1
*garage find* 89 civic hatch
hey everybody. well long story short.. i sold my 89 hf crx with 89 si motor and trans swap. i needed more seat for my son. traded it for a fullsize chevy truck. well it got tboned so i gave to my dad to sell so he could pay bills around the house (his wife/my step mom deathly sick)
ok well now caught up to speed. my uncle broke a ring in his motor 10 yrs ago. he pulled the motor out and fully rebuilt it. he fully cleaned the motor and bored it .10 over. well then he just stopped. the motor/trans and the car sat in the garage and they just started packin stuff in the car, on the car and around the car and it sat for 10 yrs.
i have now got something like 50+ hrs in cleaning out and organizing the garage & tools to where i could work car the car quite well. its just a base model 89 civic hatch with a d15b1 motor (yes i now how wimpy they are but its a fully stock rebuilt motor with no miles and yes sadly has the 4 speed- i plan on swtichin to 89 the whole d16a6 top of the motor. the head/cam gear, intake and mpfi conversion) but anyway im on the part of goin threw what all parts are on the shelves and cleaning all the bolts/brackets ect.
any ideas on how to clean all these parts well. i got a plastic tub to set parts in and just scrub with a sos pad with brake cleaner and simple green. also ideas on how to clean stuff like the greasy alternator? then in next few days imma roll the hatch outside and give the car a good washing. then i plan on scrubbing the the engine bay. i want it to look squeaky clean like everything else before i start dropping the motor in. im goin to put pics up so everybody can the project and any good legit advice is much needed and aprecatied
thanks guys
ok well now caught up to speed. my uncle broke a ring in his motor 10 yrs ago. he pulled the motor out and fully rebuilt it. he fully cleaned the motor and bored it .10 over. well then he just stopped. the motor/trans and the car sat in the garage and they just started packin stuff in the car, on the car and around the car and it sat for 10 yrs.
i have now got something like 50+ hrs in cleaning out and organizing the garage & tools to where i could work car the car quite well. its just a base model 89 civic hatch with a d15b1 motor (yes i now how wimpy they are but its a fully stock rebuilt motor with no miles and yes sadly has the 4 speed- i plan on swtichin to 89 the whole d16a6 top of the motor. the head/cam gear, intake and mpfi conversion) but anyway im on the part of goin threw what all parts are on the shelves and cleaning all the bolts/brackets ect.
any ideas on how to clean all these parts well. i got a plastic tub to set parts in and just scrub with a sos pad with brake cleaner and simple green. also ideas on how to clean stuff like the greasy alternator? then in next few days imma roll the hatch outside and give the car a good washing. then i plan on scrubbing the the engine bay. i want it to look squeaky clean like everything else before i start dropping the motor in. im goin to put pics up so everybody can the project and any good legit advice is much needed and aprecatied
thanks guys
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Re: *garage find* 89 civic hatch
Get some degreaser. Order it online at like amazon if you want to save a couple bucks. Or go to walmart and get generic stuff. It works wonders. That and if you can get a heated pressure washer, those are the bomb. A regular pressure washer will work too. Just pray it down with the pressure washer and then hit it with the degreaser. Done.
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Get some degreaser. Order it online at like amazon if you want to save a couple bucks. Or go to walmart and get generic stuff. It works wonders. That and if you can get a heated pressure washer, those are the bomb. A regular pressure washer will work too. Just pray it down with the pressure washer and then hit it with the degreaser. Done.
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Not a clue. Only seen one. But then again, I've never looked for one.
http://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipm...220&catid=s257
That was like $200 for the day. Pricy for sure. I'd just borrow someones regular pressure washer and get degreaser.
Here's another site, cheaper but I don't know how trust worthy either of these are. Check your local hardware store or tool rental location if you are seriously interested.
http://www.rentalsunlimited.com/Cata...rewashers.html
http://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipm...220&catid=s257
That was like $200 for the day. Pricy for sure. I'd just borrow someones regular pressure washer and get degreaser.
Here's another site, cheaper but I don't know how trust worthy either of these are. Check your local hardware store or tool rental location if you are seriously interested.
http://www.rentalsunlimited.com/Cata...rewashers.html
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well my next question is can anyone help me find a write up or what not for installing stock d15b1 motor in. i normally wouldnt ask this kinda question but 1- i cant find anything on installing a d15b1 motor (guess cuz its so weak lol) 2- i didnt take this motor out. i am coming into this project 10 yrs after its been disassembled. i just wanna read up on it and how the wireharness goes and ect..
thanks you guys always help out with anything on here
thanks you guys always help out with anything on here
#7
Re: *garage find* 89 civic hatch
Not a clue. Only seen one. But then again, I've never looked for one.
http://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipm...220&catid=s257
That was like $200 for the day. Pricy for sure. I'd just borrow someones regular pressure washer and get degreaser.
Here's another site, cheaper but I don't know how trust worthy either of these are. Check your local hardware store or tool rental location if you are seriously interested.
http://www.rentalsunlimited.com/Cata...rewashers.html
http://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipm...220&catid=s257
That was like $200 for the day. Pricy for sure. I'd just borrow someones regular pressure washer and get degreaser.
Here's another site, cheaper but I don't know how trust worthy either of these are. Check your local hardware store or tool rental location if you are seriously interested.
http://www.rentalsunlimited.com/Cata...rewashers.html
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#9
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Re: *garage find* 89 civic hatch
For an install guide, just google 89 civic service manual and get one free online. It will cover every thing you need. Also, I agree with a mini-me swap!
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well i have the haynes manual & the chilton manual for it. but it doesnt help me to much wit a bucket of bolts lol.
then will i really gain that much from doin the zc or y8 *mini me swap*?
also i would have to do quite a bit of wiring then to make vtec vs just puttin in a single cam and better flowing head and intake.
witch yes doin my mpfi conversion i would be swapin head & intake anyway. but doin just the mpfi i have to do more wiring **** than id like.
then will i really gain that much from doin the zc or y8 *mini me swap*?
also i would have to do quite a bit of wiring then to make vtec vs just puttin in a single cam and better flowing head and intake.
witch yes doin my mpfi conversion i would be swapin head & intake anyway. but doin just the mpfi i have to do more wiring **** than id like.
#11
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Re: *garage find* 89 civic hatch
the a6 head is the exact same casting as the d15. as for wiring, no you'd be adding two more wires to activate vtec since you're doing an mpfi swap either way. the rest can be all done with jumper harness's.
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o ok cool they make jumper wires for us guys that dont wanna do any wiring.. nice lol
well to update the project im in the middle of tryin to pull the car outside so i can wash 10 yrs of dirt n dust off and clean the engine bay. thinkin about puttin the axles back in so i can put the wheels on it and push the car in and out of the garage. read that if the axles arent back in hub before its back on its own weight n pushin n pullin it i can hurt the bearings ....
well to update the project im in the middle of tryin to pull the car outside so i can wash 10 yrs of dirt n dust off and clean the engine bay. thinkin about puttin the axles back in so i can put the wheels on it and push the car in and out of the garage. read that if the axles arent back in hub before its back on its own weight n pushin n pullin it i can hurt the bearings ....
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o ok cool they make jumper wires for us guys that dont wanna do any wiring.. nice lol
well to update the project im in the middle of tryin to pull the car outside so i can wash 10 yrs of dirt n dust off and clean the engine bay. thinkin about puttin the axles back in so i can put the wheels on it and push the car in and out of the garage. read that if the axles arent back in hub before its back on its own weight n pushin n pullin it i can hurt the bearings ....
well to update the project im in the middle of tryin to pull the car outside so i can wash 10 yrs of dirt n dust off and clean the engine bay. thinkin about puttin the axles back in so i can put the wheels on it and push the car in and out of the garage. read that if the axles arent back in hub before its back on its own weight n pushin n pullin it i can hurt the bearings ....
#15
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Re: *garage find* 89 civic hatch
^ The axle nut pulls the bearings together (they are split inner race). Without the axles the inner races can separate and you will have tons of slop in the hub and you can potentially damage the bearings.
Also, even with a jumper harness, there is still wiring to do. You need to convert from DPFI to MPFI, which is like 6 wires that need to be run. Going Vtec is another 1-3 wires, depending on how you do it.
Also, even with a jumper harness, there is still wiring to do. You need to convert from DPFI to MPFI, which is like 6 wires that need to be run. Going Vtec is another 1-3 wires, depending on how you do it.
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yeah i wanna do mpfi conversion and do mini me swap. i want to do witch ever one that meets me in the middle of not to hard to do + can do in a afternoon/nite or so and be hp gain and not kill my mpg
update: i got the car out and scrubbed the engine bay and got to wash 10yrs of dirt off. ill post pics her shortly of my progress not done cleanin the engine bay but it was a very good start
update: i got the car out and scrubbed the engine bay and got to wash 10yrs of dirt off. ill post pics her shortly of my progress not done cleanin the engine bay but it was a very good start
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^ The axle nut pulls the bearings together (they are split inner race). Without the axles the inner races can separate and you will have tons of slop in the hub and you can potentially damage the bearings.
Also, even with a jumper harness, there is still wiring to do. You need to convert from DPFI to MPFI, which is like 6 wires that need to be run. Going Vtec is another 1-3 wires, depending on how you do it.
Also, even with a jumper harness, there is still wiring to do. You need to convert from DPFI to MPFI, which is like 6 wires that need to be run. Going Vtec is another 1-3 wires, depending on how you do it.
But the wiring is super easy. Everyone, including me, over think it until they do it.
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couple pics forgot to upload last nite...
ill take pics of the parts i have cleaned n rinsed off tomorrow if get the chance
now gettinn the car cleaned up and outside
(sorry i hosed it alit bit before i took any pics. was to glad to see it outta the garage and started cleaning lol)
ill take pics of the parts i have cleaned n rinsed off tomorrow if get the chance
now gettinn the car cleaned up and outside
(sorry i hosed it alit bit before i took any pics. was to glad to see it outta the garage and started cleaning lol)
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i got her all cleaned up, well i still have some scrubbing left to do in the engine bay till im happy but progress
then soon i have the mess on the inside to do haha
then soon i have the mess on the inside to do haha
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well im pretty much done cleaning up the engine bay and most of the parts. have some parts scuffed and sanded ready for paint. imma get rustoleum flat black and semi gloss black but on a few things i was tryin to decide to keep this or that red or paint black cuz its got scuffed or scrapped but that depends on if i can find some red in can of spray paint thats close enough for me to touch up the engine bay. i dont want to black out most of the engine bay but i dont want to see bear metal for w.e. reason its showing. anyone have any info on gettin Rio Red Clearcoat R-63-4 in spray can? i say some kits of touch up from touchup.com and saw i could get some from amazon. id prefer to go in a store and get it tho. any suggestions guys?
ill post progress of the car if wanted....
ill post progress of the car if wanted....
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meant to post this stuff a few days ago... almost all done cleaning engine bay
just tryin to finsh cleaning diff parts and get w.e. ready for paint
trying to go threw the bolts and figure out what goes where. the chiltons manual is quite a bit of a help in figuring this out lol. still stumped on a few but ill get it once i start puttin the motor back in
just tryin to finsh cleaning diff parts and get w.e. ready for paint
trying to go threw the bolts and figure out what goes where. the chiltons manual is quite a bit of a help in figuring this out lol. still stumped on a few but ill get it once i start puttin the motor back in