why would a Ex be so slow
07-27-2005, 04:26 AM
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why would a Ex be so slow
i have a stock 97 ex coupe:
when i first ran my car with a auto trans it went in the 19's down at the track now that i swaped it over to the 5 speed it still wont get outta tha 18 sec zone-- it feels like when i shift the motor cant keep up
when i first ran my car with a auto trans it went in the 19's down at the track now that i swaped it over to the 5 speed it still wont get outta tha 18 sec zone-- it feels like when i shift the motor cant keep up
07-27-2005, 04:36 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (D-Dot)
Well even though the stock 1997 EX is slow, it should at least be in the 17 or even high 16 second range if everything is running right.
Sounds to me like you may have a problem that's slowing the car down even more than usual.
Are you running high 17's or low 17's? Exactly what times are you clicking off?
Sounds to me like you may have a problem that's slowing the car down even more than usual.
Are you running high 17's or low 17's? Exactly what times are you clicking off?
07-27-2005, 04:45 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (B18C5-EH2)
Ah, I had no idea a stock EX was supossed to be faster than that.
Any CELS? You said the car doesn't feel like it can keep up when you shift? What exactly are you experiencing? Stuttering? Hesitation?
Any CELS? You said the car doesn't feel like it can keep up when you shift? What exactly are you experiencing? Stuttering? Hesitation?
07-27-2005, 05:02 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (Ricey McRicerton)
not runnin past 18.o1-- it really dosent hesitate or do anything of that matter it just dosent pull its weight-- i think the motor is dead 
with 145k
with 145k
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07-27-2005, 05:03 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (Ricey McRicerton)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ah, I had no idea a stock EX was supossed to be faster than that.
Any CELS? You said the car doesn't feel like it can keep up when you shift? What exactly are you experiencing? Stuttering? Hesitation?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, do you keep up on routine maintenance? Give us more information so we can help you.
Any CELS? You said the car doesn't feel like it can keep up when you shift? What exactly are you experiencing? Stuttering? Hesitation?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, do you keep up on routine maintenance? Give us more information so we can help you.
07-27-2005, 05:04 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (JDM-EJ1)
Have you changed your cap/rotor/plugs/plug wires lately? How about your fuel filter? Don't a leakdown and compression test yet?
07-27-2005, 05:11 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (Ricey McRicerton)
i have si rims on the car now--- but Ricey i do need to check the routine maintenance on the car i got it 2 months ago from some young *** girl who just knows how to press the gas pedal
07-27-2005, 05:17 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (D-Dot)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Dot »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have si rims on the car now--- but Ricey i do need to check the routine maintenance on the car i got it 2 months ago from some young *** girl who just knows how to press the gas pedal</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds to me like there could be something fundamentally wrong (low compression, fried rings, etc) and that's why it just feels slow. Also, if your ignition components are all old and worn out, that can make a world of difference too.
Sounds to me like there could be something fundamentally wrong (low compression, fried rings, etc) and that's why it just feels slow. Also, if your ignition components are all old and worn out, that can make a world of difference too.
07-27-2005, 05:21 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (D-Dot)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Dot »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not runnin past 18.o1-- it really dosent hesitate or do anything of that matter it just dosent pull its weight-- i think the motor is dead with 145k </TD></TR></TABLE>
Did you install a new clutch when you swapped in the 5-speed? If not then the clutch may be slipping, allowing power to slip away rather than hit the axles/wheels/ground.
Also what other accessories are on the car that can add weight? your times may be fine for the weight if it's got a booming stereo, etc.
Did you weigh the car?
with 145k </TD></TR></TABLE>Did you install a new clutch when you swapped in the 5-speed? If not then the clutch may be slipping, allowing power to slip away rather than hit the axles/wheels/ground.
Also what other accessories are on the car that can add weight? your times may be fine for the weight if it's got a booming stereo, etc.
Did you weigh the car?
07-27-2005, 05:22 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (D-Dot)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Dot »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have si rims on the car now--- but Ricey i do need to check the routine maintenance on the car i got it 2 months ago from some young *** girl who just knows how to press the gas pedal</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would take the car to a mechanic to get some maintenance done on it, such as cap and rotor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, and possibly he could figure out what's wrong. Or, do the work yourself if you know how.
I would take the car to a mechanic to get some maintenance done on it, such as cap and rotor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, and possibly he could figure out what's wrong. Or, do the work yourself if you know how.
07-27-2005, 05:31 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (JDM-EJ1)
Get a helms manual and start diagnosing this problem yourself. From there, the sky is the limit.
http://www.helminc.com
http://www.helminc.com
07-27-2005, 06:18 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (BauleyCivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Because VTEC doesn't make a car faster?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesn't? Sure helps it pull to 7k
I think your times are a bit slow, but like others have said it could just be some reg mant items that have been over looked. Granted my D16Y8 isn't fast my any means but it doesn't feel bogged down or anything.
It doesn't? Sure helps it pull to 7k
I think your times are a bit slow, but like others have said it could just be some reg mant items that have been over looked. Granted my D16Y8 isn't fast my any means but it doesn't feel bogged down or anything.
07-27-2005, 06:40 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (litterbox)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bauley is anti D v-tech y0!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ohhhh well that explains it. Well I would rather have it than not.
Ohhhh well that explains it. Well I would rather have it than not.
07-27-2005, 07:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ohhhh well that explains it. Well I would rather have it than not. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hell yeah! I got's the mAd VtAc waiting in my shed. Totally rebuilt and ready to be put to the test (after break-in). It is ready for turbo, but my wallet isn't
. Soon it will have a turbo, but it's a little way's down the road. Oh, the vtec does make it faster and so does the extra .1L. It may not sound like much, but when your only dealing with 1.XL's it makes a difference .
Ohhhh well that explains it. Well I would rather have it than not.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Hell yeah! I got's the mAd VtAc waiting in my shed. Totally rebuilt and ready to be put to the test (after break-in). It is ready for turbo, but my wallet isn't
. Soon it will have a turbo, but it's a little way's down the road. Oh, the vtec does make it faster and so does the extra .1L. It may not sound like much, but when your only dealing with 1.XL's it makes a difference .
07-27-2005, 07:29 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (flood)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It doesn't? Sure helps it pull to 7k
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No bolt-on SOHC VTEC motor "pulls." Trust me. Unless you bolted a turbo onto it.
It doesn't? Sure helps it pull to 7k
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No bolt-on SOHC VTEC motor "pulls." Trust me. Unless you bolted a turbo onto it.
07-27-2005, 07:42 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (BauleyCivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No bolt-on SOHC VTEC motor "pulls." Trust me. Unless you bolted a turbo onto it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Come on now, "pulls" is totally subjective. I believe my SOHC non-VTEC "pulls" very well considering it ran dead even with my wife's old B16A2-swapped 1992 Si HB.
No bolt-on SOHC VTEC motor "pulls." Trust me. Unless you bolted a turbo onto it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Come on now, "pulls" is totally subjective. I believe my SOHC non-VTEC "pulls" very well considering it ran dead even with my wife's old B16A2-swapped 1992 Si HB.
07-27-2005, 07:44 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (BauleyCivic)
Plugs and wires can make a world of a difference. I just swapped mine after a year and it feels better.
Pull the valve cover off and see if there is any buildup in there. I had one motor, there was a lot of sludge buildup. My new motor w/ over 220k looks pristine.
You said you got the car from a young girl. My experience with most young girls is that they think that it'll run forever as long as there is gas in the tank. I'd get the motor maintenanced just like everyone else said.
Pull the valve cover off and see if there is any buildup in there. I had one motor, there was a lot of sludge buildup. My new motor w/ over 220k looks pristine.
You said you got the car from a young girl. My experience with most young girls is that they think that it'll run forever as long as there is gas in the tank. I'd get the motor maintenanced just like everyone else said.
07-27-2005, 07:48 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Come on now, "pulls" is totally subjective. I believe my SOHC non-VTEC "pulls" very well considering it ran dead even with my wife's old B16A2-swapped 1992 Si HB.
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Your P29's are not "bolt on"
Come on now, "pulls" is totally subjective. I believe my SOHC non-VTEC "pulls" very well considering it ran dead even with my wife's old B16A2-swapped 1992 Si HB.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Your P29's are not "bolt on"
07-27-2005, 07:52 AM
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Re: why would a Ex be so slow (BauleyCivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Your P29's are not "bolt on"
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Ahh, but I started without VTEC! I was at a 20hp disadvantage to my D16Z6/Y8 brethren!
Your P29's are not "bolt on"
</TD></TR></TABLE>Ahh, but I started without VTEC! I was at a 20hp disadvantage to my D16Z6/Y8 brethren!