mikeycivic

Ok guys Im still having a **** load of problems with my car. I currently have a b16b swapped into my em1. Could the fact that I have a b16a dizzy in my car with a b16a cap potentially cause any spark issues at all? There has got to be a technical reason why the itr/ctr/and gsr dizzy's are all bigger and require a bigger cap than the b16a dizzy's

Deetz

Question...since you have an EM1, did you consider trying your original B16 distributor on your current setup? The should be interchangeable, see if that solves your problem.

mikeycivic

no there is a reason why those three motors use a bigger dizzy and cap. I have a b16a dizzy and cap IN a motor that should have the bigger dizzy and cap

BLU CIVIC

i doubt it would cause any issues regarding spark. I thought all vtec distributors were the same…as in all OBD-1 the same and all OBD-2 the same.

mikeycivic

well they are not the same, the ctr dizzy is bigger and uses a bigger cap than the b16a dizzy

BLU CIVIC

didn't notice it with mine...but then again, mine was d.o.a. and i ended up using a b16 distributor

mikeycivic

im not trying to argue Im just trying to figure out WTF i wrong with my car. There clearly is a reason why the ITR,CTR, and GSR dizzy's are bigger than the b16a dizzy's. The map sensor for the b16b isnt even the same as the b16a

BLU CIVIC

dunno what to tell you. my b16b is using an obd-1 b16 distributor and i haven't had any issues since day 1

mikeycivic

so all the timing, spark plug gapping, and even the firing order what do you set all that **** too? The b16a specs, the b16b specs or the ITR specs cuz its all different

itsnotfast

OBD 1-2a and 2b can all work the same if you repin it to the proper plug. The distributors are different as far as fitment going from GSR-B16, I could be wrong but I think the GSR and TypeR dizzys are the same.

DCRB

i've always thought that you are supposed to buy the things for the motor. since you have a b16b you should buy the parts for the b16b, and set the timing and what not to that motors specs. i suppose you should even consider getting a b16b dizzy down the road just to make sure everything is legit, but as long as you are using an obd1 or 2a or 2b dizzy with your car it SHOULD be fine, unless your dizzy is going bad. but yeah i'd get the specs for your motor and set everything to what Honda says your motor should be set at. one thing that comes to mind, after doing some searching, is that the b16b does have higher compression than the b16a...

mikeycivic

the b16b is a b18c5 platform, all 3 motors use the bigger dizzy. The gsr, itr, and ctr all use the same dizzy which is BIGGER THAN THE B16A

Deetz

Both ITR and CTR distributors do use a heavier duty dizzy cap, i think mostly due to the engines running high rpm. I can't say that i know about the gsr.

As far as i know, any of the distributor caps are interchangeable, you could always grab an ITR cap from the local Acura dealer.

As i mentioned in an earlier post, did you try your original dizzy from your Si? Remeber, the ctr, itr and b16 all use the same cylinder head and mounts the same

boosted.CRX

Prob cuz the ITR, CTR and GSR dizzy you have are OBD2 and the B16A is OBD1?

mikeycivic

for the billionth time, the caps for the ITR, CTR, and GSR ARE BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGER than the rest of the dizzy's because the dizzy is bigger.

BLU CIVIC

My timing is set differently since I have different cams and adj. cam gears, can’t recall what my tuner set my spark plug gaps to, and why would the firing order be different? IMO, I think you should just get a B16b distributor cap because it seems to be causing you a lot of grief.

mikeycivic

well here is the update

cars runs like a fvcking champ. I dont know what it was but I checked the folowing

TDC = GOOD
COMPRESSION = 210 all 4 cyl with cold motor
TIMING = GOOD

I did however put what I thought was my bad dizzy back in the car, and this thing fired right up. Didnt hickup, or choke at all.

Im thinking the remanufactured dizzy I bought from a HT member was either bad or I had the firing order messed up. I am going to put that dizzy back in and see if the car acts stupid, if it does than the dizzy is whack and someone owes me a refund. If it runs fine than it was a firing order problem. I did notice though that the ICM was not secured to the inside of the dizzy like it should have been and I dont know if thats why the (new dizzy) was acting weird.

The only issue Im having now is that when I come to a stop the rpm's drop rally low and the car almost stalls. It goes to like 3-400. Port what can I adjust or replace to fix this issue?

DCRB

reset your idle?