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Old 08-14-2005, 12:29 PM
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what is a 100% way to tell if u are running lean or rich? i look at my plugs are they are white, but my fuel pressure is at 45psi
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get a guage.
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get a WBo2 sensor. I have a TechEdge DIY. It works good. Some can get pretty pricey though. The DIY isn't too bad, except you have to know how to solder and have a good understanding of electronics and IC chips.
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wideband.
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wideband = only real way
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wideband = only real way</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Put your mouth up to the muffler
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Put your mouth up to the muffler </TD></TR></TABLE>

And what should we be tasting for?

James
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jedi_Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And what should we be tasting for?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Put your mouth up to the muffler </TD></TR></TABLE>


don't listen to this guy....he just likes to put his mouth on everything.

he'll suck on anything that's big, hard, and round.


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pioneer162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
don't listen to this guy....he just likes to put his mouth on everything.

he'll suck on anything that's big, hard, and round.
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You know I'm a moderator and can ban you on a whim, right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You know I'm a moderator and can ban you on a whim, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hahahaha, I'd unban him. That **** was great.

And yeah, get a wideband. Worth every penny if you want to tune.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pioneer162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


don't listen to this guy....he just likes to put his mouth on everything.

he'll suck on anything that's big, hard, and round.

Modified by Pioneer162 at 4:52 AM 8/15/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im sorry dustin but u set ur self up for that one so im gonna call......

BURNNNNNNNNN! of the year..lol
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You know I'm a moderator and can ban you on a whim, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You could, but you won't cause you love my turbo 4dr

/puts on crash helmet.
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This guy is asking for it. But to having the testicular fortitude to say what you did.
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so what is the DIY wide02 about? any links
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pioneer162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You could, but you won't cause you love my turbo 4dr

/puts on crash helmet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, its okay i'm not going to hurt you.
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pull the plugs if there white u could be lean if there black ur rich
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LOL, its okay i'm not going to hurt you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

more worried about hurting myself .........j/k
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tuck’d98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what is the DIY wide02 about? any links</TD></TR></TABLE>

Techedge had a kind of a DIY kit, but honestly, for the 300 dollars I paid for mine, it's worth it. The time, effort and hassle it was going to be for me to build one myself wasn't worth it IMO.
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If you just want a one time AFR reading, there are two easy places to get it. One, a smog pretest. This will give you all the information you need and then some. Two, a dyno.

Talk about a mod abusing his "power". Is saving face part of his duties? Or was he just being sarcastic? Oh well ban me or put "pwned" by my screen name again.
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Wideband is the best purchase i ever made. PLX Devices Wideband is around 300$ and can work with your stock ECU.
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Talk about a mod abusing his "power". Is saving face part of his duties? Or was he just being sarcastic? Oh well ban me or put "pwned" by my screen name again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was being sarchastic...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Ej &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wideband is the best purchase i ever made. PLX Devices Wideband is around 300$ and can work with your stock ECU. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ben@importparts.com PLX M-300 Wideband $310 shipped.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tuck’d98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what is the DIY wide02 about? any links</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or you can go with the Tech Edge. Which I would choose. But it's up to you. Around the same prices. Unless you get a DIY. Then you save quite a bit of money, which is what I opted for. But you have to have a pretty strong background in electronics. IMO the Tech Edge is a better value, and the customer support I've received has been exceptional.

http://wbo2.com


If you want to convert from their Australian currency to the Mother Nation's.

Use this guy http://pages.ebay.ca/services/...html


Also, personally I don't have the display and don't plan on buying one, but I've heard numerous people who liked theirs. I just use their free software to view it on my computer or run it through Uberdata. Also(in my 2A0) you have 3 user inputs/RPM/3 thermo couples/...AND on-board logging(which I don't really use), where as the PLX does not have any just NB out and WB out. Or you can opt for the 2E0 which is just as good. I wouldn't let the small price comparisons fool you as well. I haven't used a PLX but it looks simple and easy to use. Where the TE may be a touch harder, but you also get a better and more well rounded unit with quite possibly better resolution(12bit). I couldn't find what the PLX's was on their site. Just pay close attention to detail. Also the guy who made the TE had a write up discussing the Innovative WB which didn't really sound like it offered as much. If you would I like I could try to find it if you like hearing comparisons.


Here's the PLX... click the 'M series'/'controllers'.

http://www.plxdevices.com/products.htm

If you like things a little easier. Maybe go for a PLX. If you don't mind thinking a little more(because you have more features to think know about) then go with the TE. One last thing. I don't think PLX offers any software to datalog, I could be wrong. But that is pretty helpful to me when tuning.


Don't just go by what me or anyone else says. Pick the one you like.



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