thinkbrianthink bu

I understand having a sway bar.

But what does a tie bar do?

It looks like it does nothing...

I mean what are you tieing (sp?) together? Your just linking two small pieces of metal that protrude from the already stiff Frame.


[Modified by thinkbrianthink, 9:39 AM 10/25/2002]

dogpile5

it looks purty....add a lil' bling to your ride

i took mine off when i installed the rear sway bar, that does more for handling anyways

slomofo

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bling blingin is good.

Dorikamu

I believe they link to your rear LCA if you are talking about rear tie bar, which helps to minimize body roll in the turns...

Archidictus

correct. actually, i think it decreases body flex more than roll, but it's the same principle. chassis rigidity increases.

dogpile5

the day someone beats me on a road course because they have a tie bar and i don't is the day i stop driving...

builthatch

any little bit helps...why do people seam weld their unibodys? because they are looking that extra edge in the chassis rigidity area; let the suspension do its werk w/o being skewed by the weak lil civic unibody's inability to hold perfectly rigid in race conditions especially inthat area, its notoriously flimsy, honda puts lower tie bars on some of their models from the factory...


[Modified by builthatch, 2:17 PM 10/25/2002]

Mojo-Jojo

Incorrect.

You're thinking of sway/anti-roll bars. Not tie bars. Well...tie bars do link to the inside bolt of the LCA, but they don't affect suspensino travel or body roll at all.

It only seems stiff because you're a squishy human.

Let me put it this way:

NO amount of chassis stiffness is too much.





[Modified by Mojo-Jojo, 11:29 AM 10/25/2002]

Dorikamu

hm.. this is the description from dcsports



sounds like Archidictus is rite...


[Modified by chusai, 3:23 PM 10/25/2002]

racecarpete

yes it stiffens things up and reduces body flex. Think of your car body as a square, [ ] now if you put stress on one side as you so in a turn the square will flex creating this /_/ not that extreme but you get the idea. In worse cases you will get this [_/ so the tie bars basically tie up everthint to keep the flex to a minimum. That is why all the crazy hardcore guys have strut bars up front that tie into 6 places and bars that tie into 6 in the rear. But as for dc sports


[Modified by SilverCivic2k, 12:24 PM 10/25/2002]

Dorikamu

who makes good rear tie bar then.. I am looking for one


[Modified by chusai, 4:19 PM 10/25/2002]

brcivic411

exsqueeze me? do you mean WHO make a good rear tie bar? i don't think anybody's done any side by side comparisons of lower tie bars. I would say they pretty much all do a good job. some have clearance issues with certain rear sway bars though

Dorikamu

sorry, I meant who.. I wasnt paying attention when I was typing..

racecarpete

as with strut bars and all othet tie bars, you want a one peice design, not somthing that you have to twist into place. The only one i know of is the bennen bar. That thing is super sweet. Later

jg

this one's not bad...as far as upper front tower bars go...

Mojo-Jojo

Here's my 92 Si with a Benen bar...



Looks a fuckload stronger than that shitty DC bar, doesn't it?

The Comptech Tie/Sway bar combo is good too:




I think the Neuspeed bars would be good as well.



[Modified by Mojo-Jojo, 2:31 PM 10/25/2002]

madwilliam

I got the one from dc. it took 15 minutes to put in and seems to work fine. To honest, I got the bar put in at the same time I did my swap (the shop suggested it and threw in a 'teg stock front tower bar also). I had so much work done on the car at the same time its difficult to say what the overall effect was.


[Modified by madwilliam, 10:06 PM 10/25/2002]

Dodger2940

This is what I have and I

d0nkeyxPunch

Solid lower rear tie bars (ex. Skunk2 or Spoon) are better than the ones with holes (DC sports). Thats what i heard.

B19CivicHB

With that seup in a EH2, do you need any kind of subframe kit? Looks like, from the pic, that the sway bars bolt to the tie bar rather than the frame. How much did that set you back?

Thanks,

-Nick-