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Old 05-18-2002, 03:17 PM
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i know it a civic but is it a hatch,coupe what and what does it have like motor wise,and what ever else it has?
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i've never heard of a SiR-S....i've heard of a SiR-II
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I belive it's just a badge. I have seen:

Sir-S
Sir-T
Sir-GT
Type-RT
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SIR is a b16 engine which is called a sir in japan.
Its a 5 million series, engine.
Its has 10 more ponies than a b16, and a little more torque.
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Hahahaha
Some of the replies here are so FOS!

Anyway, I know about 3 versions of the EG6 -- the SiR, SiR II and SiR-S. (These descriptions are only relevant for EG6s -- for EK4s, it's a different story.)

ALL THREE have the same engine, except the SiR II -- this has an option for an auto transmission so for this option you get a lower compression engine with 160PS only. SiR II also had options for sunroof, ABS and viscous LSD. It is basically the more luxurious version. The SiR does not have ABS or LSD or sunroof -- more for performance oriented customers who do not want to waste money on the other amenities.

SiR-S, I believe, was released as a 94 model (only from 94-95) and is an even more performance oriented version -- no sunroof, no ABS (same as before) but with LSD.

I believe those are the only differences. There is no damn difference between and SiR and SiRII engine! If anything, the SiRII engine is weaker if it's from an auto SiRII.
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thank you for all your help
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actually i've seen a 92 SiR-S here in New Zealand
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ok thats it know one nows anymore?
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well the only difference i saw was a momo steering wheel with the honda symbol.....
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Hahahaha
Some of the replies here are so FOS!


ALL THREE have the same engine, except the SiR II -- this has an option for an auto transmission so for this option you get a lower compression engine with 160PS only.
its 155hp, and it has the same compression (10.4:1) as the 5-speed version. The reason its 155 is due to weaker cams and a very conservative ECU.
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According to Honda Japan's website:

SiR-II (E-EG6)
B16A 10.4:1 CR DOHC VTEC
170 ps 5spd, 155 ps auto
LSD on 5spd
sunroof?? (I can't read japanese)
ABS optional

SiR (E-EG6)
B16A 10.4:1 CR DOHC VTEC
170 ps 5spd
ABS optional

VTi (E-EG4)
D15B 9.3:1 CR VTEC
130 ps 5spd or auto
ABS optional
LSD optional on 5spd

ETi (E-EG4)
D15B 9.3:1 CR VTEC-E
94 ps 5spd
ABS optional
basically equivalent to USDM VX

MX (E-EG3)
D15B 9.2:1 CR, dual carb
100 ps 5spd or auto
ABS optional

EL (E-EG3)
D13B 9.3:1 CR, single carb
85 ps 5spd or auto
ABS optional

Info from http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData/civic/index.html.

I don't see an SiR-S anywhere.
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honda never lists their complete lineup on the HOT due to thier limited runs and later additons. if you notice...all model entries in the HOT are the original releases, no updates or revisions.

there is a SiR-S.
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Ahh. Okay then, I lose.
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hes right. visual proof

http://www1.coralnet.or.jp/sarah/civic2.htm
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that car on that link looks pretty awesome.
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honda never lists their complete lineup on the HOT due to thier limited runs and later additons. if you notice...all model entries in the HOT are the original releases, no updates or revisions.

there is a SiR-S.
Absolutely right. For example, the online Honda model matrix only shows the 96Spec ITR and not the 98Spec.

BUT the reason I suspected the EG6 SiR.S was a 94 release was because if it was released in 92, then it would have been included in the online Honda model matrix. Ofcourse did not appear, but that's the only justification I have. However, I don't know what the specific info on the SiR.S is -- what's the difference to a regular EG6?

('94 was the year the EG6 got a very minor interior facelift -- the cloth material and interior trim colour changed colour, and the seats were a newer design -- apparently OEM Honda made by Recaro.)
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