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Old 03-03-2005, 02:57 PM
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i have a d16 y7/y8 miny me swap and this is the 4rth time i have to replace the head gasket!!! why? ast time it was less than a year ago i have put a new oem gasket and bolts and follow the intall procedure exaclty had the head resurfaced about 2 years ago is there a stronger head gasket or why is it that its blowing?? thanks for the input
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ok are you sayting you have a D15 block w/ a D16Y7/8 head? that's what I know of as a mini-me setup.
you should use the Y8 Gasket as it is a little better metal gasket then a Z6 gasket some use w/ a mini-me.
Are you reving the motor extremely high or anything?
Good luck and hope you find a cure/answer.
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I used a y8 headgasket on my y7/y8. If you need a new set of honda oem y8 headbolts I have a set of 10 that I could sell to you. Pm me
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i have a d16y7 block with a y8 head and i did used a d16y8 gasket everytime and it keeps blowing i have no Forced induction whatsoever and the motor is bone stock! any feed back will be great
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Default Re: what head gasket to use???? (gabspeed)

maybe you need new head bolts maybe invest in some arp head studs?
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do u rev ur motor to like 8k or somthing? the metal headgasket shouldnt be blowing like that
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get the head resurfaced.

might be warped.


boosted D's have problenms with head lifting.
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try some arp head studs, or at least new bolts, did you have the block resurfaced too, that could be your problem also
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I agree, resurface and new head bolts.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkRiBLaH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get the head resurfaced.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. You are supposed to have the head resurfaced every time you change the gasket.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly. You are supposed to have the head resurfaced every time you change the gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i didn't know that everytime you change the gasket? is this correct? i did used new OEM bolts everytime i changed, does anybody disagree on this i need to do this realy soon thanks for the input
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHCD16y8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try some arp head studs, or at least new bolts, did you have the block resurfaced too, that could be your problem also</TD></TR></TABLE>

do i need to acctually take the block out of the car to get it resurfaced? that sounds a little too much of a mission to do. the block has 70k miles on, i wouldn't think thats necessary. what do you think?
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I heard the d-series heads are prone to warping when removed from the block. You gotta make sure the motor is cold before you try removing it from the block. Try getting it milled.
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yes your supposed to get the head milled everytime you change the headgasket, usually the block you dont do, unless it really needs it.. there is a test to see if its warped you basically take a straightedge and u put it on the block in a few different spots and you put a light on the other side and check if you can see light..

the way i always saw it was that as long as you have one perfect surface (the head) the gasket is made to take a litle imperfections left (on the block)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civichatch6989 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes your supposed to get the head milled everytime you change the headgasket, usually the block you dont do, unless it really needs it.. there is a test to see if its warped you basically take a straightedge and u put it on the block in a few different spots and you put a light on the other side and check if you can see light..

the way i always saw it was that as long as you have one perfect surface (the head) the gasket is made to take a litle imperfections left (on the block) </TD></TR></TABLE>

awsome very helpful information thank you very much im gonna get the head milled

Any body from S FLA knows a good/honest machine shop to get this done? i know brads performance any body else?
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anybody knows whats the difference from a d16y8 head and a d16z6? how can you tell the difference?
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You can tell which head by the head code:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=786093

Might want to check the block also, as it may need resurfacing. Are you cleaning both surfaces well before putting the new gasket on? And, if so, how are you cleaning it? That could be your problem right there.


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicminded92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can tell which head by the head code:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=786093

Might want to check the block also, as it may need resurfacing. Are you cleaning both surfaces well before putting the new gasket on? And, if so, how are you cleaning it? That could be your problem right there.


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Very good info thanks alot
i clean the block with degreaser with what im i suposed to clean it with?
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If you don't get all the old gasket material off, it will cause weak spots in the seal of the new gasket. As long as you can see it's all off, degreaser should work ok. I used really fine grit sandpaper (1200+) to get all mine off. You can also use a scotchbrite pad - anything that's only VERY MILDLY abrasive. I just don't know if degreaser alone will get all of it off...


I was really just hoping you weren't going to say something like a grinder or sander. That would be bad, mmmmkkkk?

At this point though, I'd get the deck check on the block and the head. There's a section in Helms that shows you how to do that with a machinist's straight edge and a feeler guage.



Only shows the head, and it's for the 5th gen cars, but I'll be it will be very similar for your setup.

Hope this helps....
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got it thanks alot again for the feed back hopefully i'll get to it really soon right know i have to keep puttiing water in everyday if not the car will overheat thanks again
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hey finaly got around to do the gasket so far its running fine i got a cometic HG and ARP studs (60 lbs ) trq if any body is intersted im have a spare y8 head recntly rebuild less than 30k miles on perfect shape with Vtec selenoid and cam gear make offer
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