SkoundrelUSA

<U>Setup:</U>
94 Civic VX
JDM B16A with LSD trans
SR ebay intake
Magnaflow catback with magnaflow cat "high flow"
Exedy Stage 1 Organic clutch w/8lbs Exedy Flywheel
P06 chipped with GSR program
B&M FPR
Skunk2 short shifter w/Energy shifter bushings
00 Si wheels w/ Toyo Proxes 4 (about 8k miles give or take)
full interior + stock stereo + spare tire

The best of 3 runs:
R/T - .613
60' - 2.465
330 - 6.589
1/8 - 9.980
MPH - 72.90
1000 - 12.864
1/4 - 15.329
MPH - 91.11

i dunno, i was pretty disappointed. I mean I wasn't expecting 12s but I really wanted to break into 14.9 at least. Is this time normal or do i need to work on my launching?


Modified by SkoundrelUSA at 12:40 AM 3/17/2005

cnyej1

Work on your launches.... and dont take any offence to this... but are you a heavy guy (fat/chubby) b16's really make no torque at all... so if your a big guy that thing isnt gonna scream like you hoped.

SkoundrelUSA

sorry forgot to mention i weigh 160lbs. no offense taken

also i launched at 3300rpms on this run. slipped it but still spun a little.

RangerDan

Overall your time isnt horrible. YOur 60 could use some work for sure...what rpm were you shifting at? Oh yeah and what rpm did you launch at?

Getting into the mid 14's shouldnt be an issue. I know everyone wants to run awesome times the first time out but that only comes with seat time.

92eh3si

that is pretty slow i think..
i had a 95 LS wit i/h/e (this was like 5 years ago) and I ran 15.27 @ 92.8 mph
but of course that was done with no rear and passenger seats..
you should be able to hit high 14's IMO.
i've seen a lot of HB wit b16 at the track running 14.8 and 14.9
launching technique is what you need to work on

SkoundrelUSA

launched this run at 3300rpms and shifted at 8k every gear and kept chirpping every gear...

what would yall recommend on my launching? is it too high? should i slip more?

92eh3si

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry forgot to mention i weigh 160lbs. no offense taken

also i launched at 3300rpms on this run. slipped it but still spun a little.</TD></TR></TABLE>

did u get good traction launching at 3300rpm??
i normally do around 2000~2500.
i never got traction launching over 3000.

cnyej1

I re-read and I see you have an 8lb flywheel....

you might want to launch a lil higher.....Im not for certain but it would seem launching it at 3300rpms might be still slightly bogging the motor after the tires grab. Try it a lil higher next time.

I know a guy in town who had a 93 VX with a JDM gsr swap and he would half to launch at like 4300 or so to get it not to bog at all. I think his flywheel was 7lbs.

cnyej1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92eh3si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did u get good traction launching at 3300rpm??
i normally do around 2000~2500.
i never got traction launching over 3000. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your LS had alot more torque than a b16.

SkoundrelUSA

well i launched around 4200 my second run and my 60ft was about the same but i was .10 slower

RangerDan

with my itr swap and azenis I launched at 6200 rpm. BTW revving that engine to 8k rpm is way to high. Typically your stock tach is gonna read a little lower than your actual rpm...so you may have been a little over 8k. I would shift around 7600rpm.

SkoundrelUSA

6200rpm???!!!

how the hell

RangerDan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6200rpm???!!!

how the hell</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha thats what I thought once I got the feel down. With my swap I would almost leave the line in vtec. Ive raced many a car in my years but learning the tricky 4cyl power was well, tricky.

cnyej1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6200rpm???!!!

how the hell</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly you want those tires to spin slightly before grabbin....... if they dont especially with Azenis the engine will bogg and then in return give you a shitty time.

RangerDan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly you want those tires to spin slightly before grabbin....... if they dont especially with Azenis the engine will bogg and then in return give you a shitty time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah thats the thing, plus he has a light weight flywheel. Keep the rpms up but dont spin off the rubber, get the feel of when the tires grip and smoothly but quickly let the clutch out the rest of the way.

This is a critical time in a drag race any quick jerky foot movements will effect how well and fast you get traction down to the ground. WARNING horrible analogy coming.

Take a short glass of water fill it a half inch from the top. Start at a standstill and move the glass forward as fast as possible...the water will become upset and spill out, thats bad. If you continue this manuvuer a few times you will slowly have less and less water spill out. Same kinda thing with your engine. If your not smooth theres a weight transfer problem and grip issues that are gonna happen.

HAHA I think Im to tired to hand out advice tonight....

Chillin94hatch

As everyone has already said, just work on bring your 60' down, and practice your launches...

You can bring that 60' down to a 2.1 or 2.2 with that lsd

gitwidit

Not bad for your first pass really. A little more seat time and you'll hit 14's

blue2ksi

gut it

civic2slo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><U>Setup:</U>
P06 chipped with GSR program


Modified by SkoundrelUSA at 12:40 AM 3/17/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your vtec is at 4400 rpms a little low. That could be a problem and your 60ft.

rcoolb2002

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Your vtec is at 4400 rpms a little low. That could be a problem and your 60ft.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. Why is your computer chipped to GSR specs? I would bump that vtec engagement up to 5600 rpm.

I launch my car @ 7000 rpms with BFG's. Your time seems a little slow to me. A buddy of mine ran a stock b16a in a stripped CX to a 14.20, but he was running on azenis at the time I believe.

MidShipCivic

Your 60fts ARE HORRIBLE, fix that and then you will see the times.

SkoundrelUSA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic2slo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your vtec is at 4400 rpms a little low. That could be a problem and your 60ft.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a gsr fuel map but vtec engages at 5600rpm

SkoundrelUSA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your 60fts ARE HORRIBLE, fix that and then you will see the times.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do u think is my problem? i launched at 3300rpm and slipped the clutch pretty well IMO. should i launch higher? lower? slip more? what do u suggest?

cnyej1

Seriously what everyone has already suggested.... launch it higher.... you have a light weight flywheel..... its lighter which makes the engine rev faster, but the downside is if its not launched at a high enough rpm it can bog the motor.

It may not even seem like it to you but it probably is. Just try launching higher and then come back.

SkoundrelUSA

thanks for the advice, ill try that out this weekend