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Old 06-17-2005, 01:16 PM
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i'm not sure what is in my car. I have an SI 99 with a SI 00 v tec motor in it but it's not working. I'm just not sure if my ecu is the right one, one that can control the vtec. it's a P2P and with the research i've done, the SI coupe ecu should be a P2T. P2P is for an EX EK civic with (vtec or not, i'm not sure).

I just wanna know if my ecu can control vtec cause at this time the vtec doesn't engage.
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ps I searched but I could find any good info on my problem.
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Default Re: vtec problem with ecu p2p (snouka)

correct...

P2P is for the 99-00 EX
P2T is for the 99-00 SI

it wont start becuase the SI ecu has a different pinout for the fuel pump.
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should I change the ECU and put P2T instead de P2P that I have, or is there another way to fix it.
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actually after searching a bit more I found that that the p2p and the p2t are the same, it's just that the first is obd2a and the other is obd2b. If i'm not mistaken the only difference between the two are the wire configuration but both are vtec.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snouka &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually after searching a bit more I found that that the p2p and the p2t are the same, it's just that the first is obd2a and the other is obd2b. If i'm not mistaken the only difference between the two are the wire configuration but both are vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong. P2P comes in OBD2A and OBD2B while P2T only comes in OBD2B. 96-98 Civic EX use OBD2A P2P while 99-00 Civic EX uses OBD2B P2P. Get yourself a P2T because the P2P was designed for a SOHC motor and will make your car run shitty.
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how can i know if my p2p is obd2a or obd2b
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http://www.hondata.com/techecuid.html

Look at the pictures and compare your ecu sockets with them.
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Get yourself a P2T because the P2P was designed for a SOHC motor and will make your car run shitty

I have a SOHC 1.6 vtec OO in my si 99
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snouka &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a SOHC 1.6 vtec OO in my si 99</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why..?unless you are in Canada.
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yes sorry I didn't specify I live in Montreal
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Well then the OBD2B P2P is the correct ECU. Sorry I misunderstood thinking you had a USDM Si.
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the main reason i'm asking this is because I wanted to know if this was the reason why my vtec didn't work. As far as I can see, it's not my ecu.

my oil is fine, there is no dent in the oil pan and the solenoid is working (tested it with the battery) , the ecu is fine also, what's next...

Should I try and make a manual switch to operate the solenoid. If yes, what is the fuse I should use, a 15 amp???
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Why do you think your vtec is not working? Are you throwing any check engine lights?
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nop no cel. Maybe some bad wiring or there filter clogged up or bad oil pressure. thats why I wanna test it with a switch. If it works with the switch well then it means that the oil is fine and filter is ok.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snouka &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nop no cel. Maybe some bad wiring or there filter clogged up or bad oil pressure. thats why I wanna test it with a switch. If it works with the switch well then it means that the oil is fine and filter is ok. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok answer my question. Why do you think your VTEC is not working? Single cam vtec motors do not produce the same loud noise as the dual cam ones do when hitting vtec. My y7/y8 hybrid vtec motor doesnt produce a really loud noise at the crossover, but if you listen closely you can distinguish it.
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how high are you revving it up?u prolly wont feel it til about 6k. [engagement is around 5200]
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we tried to opend the solenoid manually with a switch and test drove it and I dind't ''feel'' it. There was no difference between when the vtec was on with the switch on or when it was off by the switch being off. It's not that i can't hear it, I really don't care, I just wanna feel it.
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OBD2 is pretty picky - if VTEC weren't working, it'd throw a CEL. When the ECU activates an output, it looks for that device to draw some current and if no current was drawn, then the device is either faulty or there is an open in the wiring. If you took the engine up past VTEC activation and didn't get a CEL, you're probably just expecting too much out of the Ex VTEC.

My girl has a 00 Ex (bone stock) and when VTEC kicks in, you don't feel **** - you just feel a constant linear pull to redline - its transparent to say the least.

Have you tried unplugging the VTEC solenoid and then taking a test drive to see if the ECU will throw a CEL at that point?
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it's alot harder to feel on those SOHC VTEC motors then it is on the DOHC motors
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