Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge?
01-18-2004, 07:04 PM
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Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge?
I've done a few valve adjustments before in the past, but I have never seen any pictures or diagrams of where to stick the feeler gauge. I just want to clarify this question with anybody who know's the correct spot to stick the feeler gauge.
I usually stick it between the rocker arm and the cam lobe. Is this the correct spot? Just need some reasurance from some tech experts out there.
Thanx,
Nick
*edit* the valve adjustments I attempted in the past, all came out good. At least I think, because the tranny was shot so there was always a ticking sound.
I usually stick it between the rocker arm and the cam lobe. Is this the correct spot? Just need some reasurance from some tech experts out there.
Thanx,
Nick
*edit* the valve adjustments I attempted in the past, all came out good. At least I think, because the tranny was shot so there was always a ticking sound.
01-18-2004, 07:24 PM
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Re: Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge? (AlphaQup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlphaQup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've done a few valve adjustments before in the past, but I have never seen any pictures or diagrams of where to stick the feeler gauge. I just want to clarify this question with anybody who know's the correct spot to stick the feeler gauge.
I usually stick it between the rocker arm and the cam lobe. Is this the correct spot? Just need some reasurance from some tech experts out there.
Thanx,
Nick
*edit* the valve adjustments I attempted in the past, all came out good. At least I think, because the tranny was shot so there was always a ticking sound.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes just line it up with the top of the valve (retainer/spring) and then slide it between the cam lobe/rocker arm and there should be some slight hesitation when sliding the feeler gauge in and out if not then it needs adjusting.
I usually stick it between the rocker arm and the cam lobe. Is this the correct spot? Just need some reasurance from some tech experts out there.
Thanx,
Nick
*edit* the valve adjustments I attempted in the past, all came out good. At least I think, because the tranny was shot so there was always a ticking sound.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes just line it up with the top of the valve (retainer/spring) and then slide it between the cam lobe/rocker arm and there should be some slight hesitation when sliding the feeler gauge in and out if not then it needs adjusting.
01-18-2004, 10:25 PM
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Re: Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge? (Hype-aaaRRRR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hype-aaaRRRR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes just line it up with the top of the valve (retainer/spring) and then slide it between the cam lobe/rocker arm and there should be some slight hesitation when sliding the feeler gauge in and out if not then it needs adjusting.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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yes just line it up with the top of the valve (retainer/spring) and then slide it between the cam lobe/rocker arm and there should be some slight hesitation when sliding the feeler gauge in and out if not then it needs adjusting.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks
01-18-2004, 11:33 PM
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Re: Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge? (kool168)
Heres a how to
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...t.php
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...t.php
01-19-2004, 05:50 AM
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Re: Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge? (kool168)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That depends... what clearances do you use when sliding it between rocker arm and cam lobe?</TD></TR></TABLE>
intake: .006"-.007"
exhaust: .007"-.008"
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kool168 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wut happen if i never done a valve ajust. ?
now the engine has 50k</TD></TR></TABLE>
nothing...u just should have had one done around 40k and you should probley get one anytime now.
intake: .006"-.007"
exhaust: .007"-.008"
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kool168 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wut happen if i never done a valve ajust. ?
now the engine has 50k</TD></TR></TABLE>
nothing...u just should have had one done around 40k and you should probley get one anytime now.
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01-19-2004, 08:11 AM
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Re: Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge? (B18EG6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That depends... what clearances do you use when sliding it between rocker arm and cam lobe?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure about inches, but I went by the helms manual:
.20 mm intake
.25 mm exhaust
btw: these are specs for D-series
I'm not sure about inches, but I went by the helms manual:
.20 mm intake
.25 mm exhaust
btw: these are specs for D-series
01-19-2004, 09:53 AM
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Re: Valve Adjustment ? Where do I stick the feeler gauge? (Hype-aaaRRRR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hype-aaaRRRR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
intake: .006"-.007"
exhaust: .007"-.008"
nothing...u just should have had one done around 40k and you should probley get one anytime now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so it won't do harm to the engine even i dun do valve adjust.?
execpt the fact that the engine has noise?
intake: .006"-.007"
exhaust: .007"-.008"
nothing...u just should have had one done around 40k and you should probley get one anytime now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so it won't do harm to the engine even i dun do valve adjust.?
execpt the fact that the engine has noise?
01-19-2004, 10:31 AM
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How difficult is a valve adjustment (if you've never done one before, but are pretty technically savvy?) Just asking cuz I think I'm due pretty soon, but would rather not let another shop rape me on prices...
01-19-2004, 10:40 AM
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Re: (FrostySol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FrostySol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How difficult is a valve adjustment (if you've never done one before, but are pretty technically savvy?) Just asking cuz I think I'm due pretty soon, but would rather not let another shop rape me on prices...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Its not that hard just read the manual and follow directons. To make the job easier get some 45 or 90 degree feller gauges and a valve adjustment tool.
Its not that hard just read the manual and follow directons. To make the job easier get some 45 or 90 degree feller gauges and a valve adjustment tool.
I suppose like most jobs it's easy with the right tools
01-19-2004, 11:33 AM
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Re: (FrostySol)
You know those clearance a few posts up are NOT for the method originally posted.
When doing a valve adjustment, you stick the feeler gauge between the top of the valve stem, and the bottom of the adjusting nut!
When placing the feelers between cam lobe and rocker pad, the gemoetry is different and you hafta use different specs...
check it out
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=498826
When doing a valve adjustment, you stick the feeler gauge between the top of the valve stem, and the bottom of the adjusting nut!
When placing the feelers between cam lobe and rocker pad, the gemoetry is different and you hafta use different specs...
check it out
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=498826
01-19-2004, 05:25 PM
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Re: (B18EG6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know those clearance a few posts up are NOT for the method originally posted.
When doing a valve adjustment, you stick the feeler gauge between the top of the valve stem, and the bottom of the adjusting nut!
When placing the feelers between cam lobe and rocker pad, the gemoetry is different and you hafta use different specs...
check it out
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=498826</TD></TR></TABLE>
that link is probably the most informative link i have found....
When doing a valve adjustment, you stick the feeler gauge between the top of the valve stem, and the bottom of the adjusting nut!
When placing the feelers between cam lobe and rocker pad, the gemoetry is different and you hafta use different specs...
check it out
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=498826</TD></TR></TABLE>
that link is probably the most informative link i have found....
01-19-2004, 10:32 PM
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Re: (B18EG6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know those clearance a few posts up are NOT for the method originally posted.
When doing a valve adjustment, you stick the feeler gauge between the top of the valve stem, and the bottom of the adjusting nut!
When placing the feelers between cam lobe and rocker pad, the gemoetry is different and you hafta use different specs...
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lets say I want to do it the way I posted. "between cam lobe & rocker pad"
What would be the correct measurments for the D series valve adjustment?
When doing a valve adjustment, you stick the feeler gauge between the top of the valve stem, and the bottom of the adjusting nut!
When placing the feelers between cam lobe and rocker pad, the gemoetry is different and you hafta use different specs...
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lets say I want to do it the way I posted. "between cam lobe & rocker pad"
What would be the correct measurments for the D series valve adjustment?
01-20-2004, 04:05 AM
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Re: (AlphaQup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlphaQup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Lets say I want to do it the way I posted. "between cam lobe & rocker pad"
What would be the correct measurments for the D series valve adjustment?
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not sure but the specs i posted earlier quoted below are factory specs for b18c1/c5 and b16a
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hype-aaaRRRR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
intake: .006"-.007"
exhaust: .007"-.008" </TD></TR></TABLE>
Lets say I want to do it the way I posted. "between cam lobe & rocker pad"
What would be the correct measurments for the D series valve adjustment?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
not sure but the specs i posted earlier quoted below are factory specs for b18c1/c5 and b16a
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hype-aaaRRRR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
intake: .006"-.007"
exhaust: .007"-.008" </TD></TR></TABLE>
01-21-2004, 12:17 AM
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Re: (Hype-aaaRRRR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hype-aaaRRRR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not sure but the specs i posted earlier quoted below are factory specs for b18c1/c5 and b16a
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NO! those specs are to be used when measuring between the top of the valve stem and the bottom of the adjusting screw!!!!!!
EDIT: if you need me to take a picture of where to place the feeler (to use the helms clearances)... just tell me
not sure but the specs i posted earlier quoted below are factory specs for b18c1/c5 and b16a
</TD></TR></TABLE>
NO! those specs are to be used when measuring between the top of the valve stem and the bottom of the adjusting screw!!!!!!
EDIT: if you need me to take a picture of where to place the feeler (to use the helms clearances)... just tell me
01-21-2004, 05:23 AM
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Re: (degooser)
That pic is of a B series (obviously), the dseries is a lot easier...
I can't figure out why you wouldn't just do set the valves the way the books says to....by "feeling" the gap between the adjusting screw and the valve stem top.
It's too difficult to get between the cam lobe and the follower...isn't it?
P.S. I'm talking specifically about D series...
I can't figure out why you wouldn't just do set the valves the way the books says to....by "feeling" the gap between the adjusting screw and the valve stem top.
It's too difficult to get between the cam lobe and the follower...isn't it?
P.S. I'm talking specifically about D series...
01-21-2004, 09:56 AM
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Alright guys. I used the helms manual and found out where exactly you place the feeler gauge.
My first attempt, I measured between the cam lobe & the rocker pad. (using the specs I mentioned above)
Results: Ticka Ticka tappa tappa tappa ticka ticka ........
There was a more noticeable change in the taps, as if it got worse.
The second attempt, I used the same measurements. But instead I measured between the Valve stem end & under the locknut. (as shown in the sketch I made)
Results: vroooooMmmmmmm (Purred like a kitten)
Second grade drawing 
Hopefully this helps anybody who is in question.
P.S. Thanks for the help fellas
My first attempt, I measured between the cam lobe & the rocker pad. (using the specs I mentioned above)
Results: Ticka Ticka tappa tappa tappa ticka ticka ........
There was a more noticeable change in the taps, as if it got worse.
The second attempt, I used the same measurements. But instead I measured between the Valve stem end & under the locknut. (as shown in the sketch I made)
Results: vroooooMmmmmmm (Purred like a kitten)
Second grade drawing
Hopefully this helps anybody who is in question.
P.S. Thanks for the help fellas
01-21-2004, 11:08 AM
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Re: (B18EG6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">exxxxactly
sometimes its a bit tricky to get that damn feeler gauge in there... did you just back the nut off till you could, then re-tighten it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup. I didn't realize how easy it actually was.
sometimes its a bit tricky to get that damn feeler gauge in there... did you just back the nut off till you could, then re-tighten it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup. I didn't realize how easy it actually was.
01-21-2004, 12:12 PM
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Re: (AlphaQup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlphaQup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright guys. I used the helms manual and found out where exactly you place the feeler gauge.
My first attempt, I measured between the cam lobe & the rocker pad. (using the specs I mentioned above)
Results: Ticka Ticka tappa tappa tappa ticka ticka ........
There was a more noticeable change in the taps, as if it got worse.
The second attempt, I used the same measurements. But instead I measured between the Valve stem end & under the locknut. (as shown in the sketch I made)
Results: vroooooMmmmmmm (Purred like a kitten)
Second grade drawing
Hopefully this helps anybody who is in question.
P.S. Thanks for the help fellas</TD></TR></TABLE>
so for a b series do it this way or what?
are you doing a valve adjustment on a d series?
My first attempt, I measured between the cam lobe & the rocker pad. (using the specs I mentioned above)
Results: Ticka Ticka tappa tappa tappa ticka ticka ........
There was a more noticeable change in the taps, as if it got worse.
The second attempt, I used the same measurements. But instead I measured between the Valve stem end & under the locknut. (as shown in the sketch I made)
Results: vroooooMmmmmmm (Purred like a kitten)
Second grade drawing
Hopefully this helps anybody who is in question.
P.S. Thanks for the help fellas</TD></TR></TABLE>
so for a b series do it this way or what?
are you doing a valve adjustment on a d series?