FreddieC

ok plsease dont talk ****. I have a full type r swap with no check engine light i also have a type r lsd tranny. i have a skunk 2 intake manifold. greddy exhaust. thats pretty much it for my engine everything is pretty much stock. I want to build it cause it doesntt feel like it pulls as hard as a type r should gsr's beat me haha. I also have an aftermarket ecu. the engine is in a 99 em1. its a ctr swap NOT itr. So i wanna know what i should do my budget is 1400 dollars. my dad is a mechanic so he can help me. Thanks for thelp in advance

mayfly

best bang for your buck, turbo with a good tune

MR.johnson

build something larger than a 1.6

itsnotfast

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VTECROAR96typeR

Why dont you sell the CTR and get a ITR swap? I belive the GSR has more torque than the b16b. You say you have a 1400$ budget.. you could get a good tune, and ad some more boltons.

FreddieC

how much do yu think i can sell my ctr to buy an itr??

93egSLEEPER

1400 isnt enough to get a GOOD turbo kit put together and tuned. Also boosting a CTR IMO is a cardinal sin. That motor was created to be and NA track motor from its first days on the drawing board. If it was my car I would either build the head (cams, valves, springs, retainers etc) and tune the **** out of it. OR i would sell that swap for 3500-4k and buy a GSR/LS swap and boost it. Way faster and better bang for the buck.

IMO building 1.6's is outdated and not worth the money with 1.8's available so readily and cheap.

todamax

maybe u wanna go for oversize high compression piston..put in hi duration cam and install piggyback ecu for fine tuning the air fuel mixture

FreddieC

so i should just sell it and buy an itr swap??

mattyfo0z

I say sell it and buy an LS. Slightly build it, boost it, get a good tune, and you'll be stomping on (almost) everybody.

FreddieC

one guy who knows his **** on the em1 crew board his name is ej1serge told me i should just keep it and boost it??

mattyfo0z

I wouldn't recommend it. I might not "know my ****" about everything, but I can guarantee you will not only save cash by going with a boosted LS setup, you will also make a lot more power with a stock block.

-__-

i would sell the CTR motor then buy a GSR and turbo it. i wouldn't turbo the CTR motor because it's compression ratio is kinda high. plus, i would want you to preserve the CTR motor as naturally aspirated cuz B16b are rare and dope. :D

OR sell just the CTR block, and put a GSR block or LS block or B20 block in it's place.

b20hatchek

just swap the block for a gsr block

Deetz

LOL, they are the same block!!

Really, the OP could just get away with changing the rotating assembly from a GSR or ITR, the parts will drop right in

I know lot's of other people talk about boost like it's no big deal, but they leave out all the downsides!

- a "good' kit costs some good coin
- although a turbo makes great power, it's often short lived
- your turbo honda will become a higher maintance

Cain Marko

If you wanna get some more power, cams are the way to go, get some aggressive cams and a tune and you'll make noticeable power. You CAN turbo a CTR motor, its all in the tune, the whole compression ratio being too high is just nonsense, add fuel, alter timing, go fast.

fv8s

I say this everyday to 2 of my friends that own b16's and think they are worth building. Its a freakin z6 with an extra cam and a higher CR lol. I am not trying to bag on you for owning a B16 because in reality they are nice little motors, but for the price you can pay for a stock ITR/GsR block and have it move just as well as a somewhat built bottom end doesn't make sense to me.

fv8s

this isn't Fast and Furious the movie, its a technical forum

fv8s

YES! you have the right idea

b20hatchek

yea i only had a 2 hours of sleep so yeah ^"that's" what i meant lol

BC_Garage

Spend the money on a turbo or build the bottom end and get a turbo later on. thats our opinion

PSU

iTrader: (2)

I'd personally be happy with what I had and not worry about GSRs beating me.

As others have stated, if you want sheer power, go with a boosted B18B.

92EGCTR

First off, I have a CTR in a 92 EG hatch, just with bolt ons, cams, header, exhaust, air filter, chip ecu, street tune, and never dyno it before, but I have to say, its quick for 1.6. I have kept up with stock RSX type S. If you want more power, staying NA, you gonna have to stroke it to bigger liter, thats the bottom line. If you got 1400, I would build my bottom end. CTR head can really take some abuse. Check in with Laskey Racing in So Cal. They build some awesome block.

FreddieC

Idk then what do hahah ok so i guess i should just sell my ctr and buy a itr?? Does anyone wanna buy a ctr full swap?? haha how much do they go for mine has 50,000 miles on it??

chewyv

b20vtec