beandip

So Im trying to decide which motor I want to swap into my 94 Delsol Si.
I have $2500 and looking. Do I want a B16a or a B18b. Is the VTEC of the B16 better then the torque of the B18b? or should I buy the B18b and VTEC it a year or two from now?

Looking to hear Personal experiences!!

94si94cx

You are posed with the exact same dilema as I was. I will tell you my solution.

Get the b16a for now. You will have an awesome flowing head, a reliable motor, high redline, VTEC power, a good ECU, and a sweet closed geared tranny. If the torque is not enough for you, plan on b20'n it later. This will give you about 20ft/lbs more torque than the b18b, but will still give monsterous amounts of power

beandip

I was thinking the same thing, but Im not sure I want that big of a motor in my car. I like the B16, but then again, I wouldnt mind a LS/VTEC. I know if I get the LS now, Ill want the VTEC soon after. B20/Vtec does not have enough AM support as a Ls/Vtec either. Im not looking for killer motor, just mid to high 13s

sparq

Solution... B18 block, B16 head... LS/VTEC - no more worries

94si94cx

The b20/vtec has TONS of aftermarket support! What it doesn't have is OEM support. For example, you cannot swap CTR/ITR pistons into a b20/vtec like you could in an LS/VTEC. But you COULD swap JE 10.5:1 pistons into a b20/vtec. Just think, you get the awesome HP from having a VTEC head with the choice of upgrading to ITR manifolds and such, CTR cams, ITR cams, Skunk2 valvetrain stuff, CAI's, everything! If you are looking for a 13s car, aftermarket support is not a problem. Anything that YOU need, you can get aftermarket for a b20/vtec. Plus who couldn't use more torque. You can always use more torque.

VTECVillain

I think you will be dissapointed in the B16A. I agree that it does make decent power and has killer top end, but considering the weight of a Del Sol, I would want a larger displacement block from the start. I understand that the Del Sol VTEC's came with a B16A3, but the 99-00 Si's have the B16A2 and people still yank them out for a bigger block. If you can't save a little more and buy a B18C1 swap. I would go with the LS. Later on you can build an LSVTEC or boost it

beandip

LOL Ok ok point taken. Money is the big issue, otherwise I would be buying a built B20/VTEC with turbo, tuned & install from http://www.ImportBuilders.com (14k OMG!!)
I dont want to spend more then 3500 for the swap.

94si94cx

www.osakajdmmotors.com has 2nd gen b16a's for like $1950 i think. You can get a JDM b20 from www.jdmhondaparts.com for about $700. Figure in about $500 shipping for both parts and you are still under the $3500 mark. You will need a few misc. parts, but should still come out under $3500

NightHawkC5

get a b18c Gsr off HT if not get a B18b then go ls/v later i hate the B16 I would only get it if i had a Crx. 111 torque= weak

slammed_93_hatch

well the b16a will beat a b18b in a 1320 race. but i dislike vtec so i went with a b18b i think you should look in a b18c and try and ride in cars with swaps. i rode in my buddies 4 door with a b16 and i wasnt impressed at all. now it should technically be faster then a b18b motor but you have to rev it up to vtec to get power i don't like that **** b18b you have decent power from start to finsh its all about personal likes though

transmission11

proposion=good

hybrider

right on

0h82lose

First figure out if your going forced induction or not. If not I would recommend the b18c. You already have a 1.6 liter in there right now you want another one? IF you are going to go forced induction then their is a thread going on in the forced induction forum check it out.

Lysawy

if i had an option of doing this again h22 would be my choice hhaha
but then again budget is killing me....

Neptune

My friend just got his VTEC Lude and loves it, loves the vtec, but then again he had a 4-cyl Probe. Then my friend turboed his B18b and loves it. I want to go vtec and will probably do a B16, but that will be a long time from now.