Wazup

i had the alignment done on my civic and the paper said the camber is at 1.9 degrees in the rear, not what it is in the front right now, dont have it on me... anyay, i was wondering if this is a lot..

i have ITR springs and 15" rotas... looks like stock height, maybe a lil lower

slammed_93_hatch

wow you have positive camber that is bad

ej1 coop

thats not to good if its positive but then again camber is never good

92b16vx

Don't feel bad, I just got back from the shop and found that something in my right suspension is bent and I have 3 degrees of camber on that side, everything else is perfect, hazards of buying parts from wrecks.

Wazup

i was thinking about doing the homemade washer camber kit for the rear, think it might be a good idea?

nonsense

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if it's +1.9 washers will make it worse. If it's -1.9 washers will make it better.

BUT IMO -1.9 in the rear isn't all that bad. I'm more interested in the toe settings. BTW, I'm running with -1.8 in the rear. 1.0-1.4 in front. Toe is set very close to 0

Steve

EVOrence

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej1 coop &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but then again camber is never good</TD></TR></TABLE>
??? negative camber helps the car handle better... what do you mean 'camber is Never good?' all BMWs come with a slight negative camber to help them handle better... but yea, back to the topic, if it's +1.9, you might wanna get that fixed soon...

degooser

on my coupe i have -2 degrees in the front and -1 degree in the back toe is supposidly fixed according to the alignment people..

redlinetuning

when you get your car aligned.. they don't work on the camber.. all they do is check and adjust the toe-settings. if you don't tell them if you want a toe-in or toe-out setting.. they'll simply set them as close to 0 as they can. correct me if i'm wrong..

FrostySol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej1 coop &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> thats not to good if its positive but then again camber is never good
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMteggy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ??? negative camber helps the car handle better... what do you mean 'camber is Never good?' all BMWs come with a slight negative camber to help them handle better... but yea, back to the topic, if it's +1.9, you might wanna get that fixed soon...
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^ Ever seen the front of one of the Ferrari F1 cars and noted the amount of camber going on there? If it wasn't good I highly doubt the constructor's champion of the pinnacle of international motorsport would use it

Wazup

thanks for all the comments and advice.. i posted the camber settings off of memory, since i dont have the paper right now and am too lazy to get it, but ill look at it later, and come to think of it, it may have been -1.9 degrees

FrostySol

yeah, there is such a thing as too much camber (just as there is too much with anything), but that's not it (if it is negative). As long as your toe is set correctly you should be good

dgonzals

post details when you get a chance and we will let u know.....w

mike1114

iTrader: (1)

stock specs for ek civic (most civic should be same)

camber:
Left and right front -1.0 to 1.0

Rear Left and right -2.0 to 0

toe:
Front left and right -0.04 to 0.12
Rear Left and right -0.04 to 0.16

slntciv

damn dude is ur car lowered or lifted

Wazup

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haha, wel, technically its the same height as stock, maybe a lil lower cuz theyre ITR springs, but, like i said i think i made a mistake, its probably at -1.9 degrees... not too worried about it right now since my car just got broken into last night.

Riceburner247

iTrader: (1)

My hatch has m4d camber in the rear but since there's no weight back there, I don't experience bad tread wear. Try the washer trick in the rear and see if that's good enough. If not, camber correction kits for the rear of civic's are like $120 from SPC, I think.

locass316

if its at -1.9 then thats noo too bad. its good to have some negative camber.

nonsense

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on that note, if you do end up trying the washer trick get the rear alignment re-done. The adjustment to camber will f*ck the toe and cause more wear than if you left it alone (concidering they did an alignment with -1.9* camber)

Steve

poop32145432

Don't worry man I run on 15" Rota Slips w/Tein Type Flex and I have -1 in the front and -2 in the back. Infact it improves handling, but produces more camber wear which isn't that bad. I drive about 200 miles every weekend for the last 6 months and my tires are still good to go. And lets just say I love the feeling of lateral G. You can correct it with a camber kit up to a certain degree if you lower it. Here's how low my car is and I use Skunk2 camber kits.

JV

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by degooser &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on my coupe i have -2 degrees in the front and -1 degree in the back</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same here.

I'd worry more about the toe settings. Misaligned toe is what will chew your tires up quick.

Hybrid96EK

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Same here.

I'd worry more about the toe settings. Misaligned toe is what will chew your tires up quick. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Camber is just as much of a tire wearing angle as toe. In fact, its more important then toe.

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMteggy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
??? negative camber helps the car handle better... what do you mean 'camber is Never good?' all BMWs come with a slight negative camber to help them handle better... but yea, back to the topic, if it's +1.9, you might wanna get that fixed soon...
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Most european cars have slight negative camber because they are setup for high speed driving. Downforce changes suspension geometry... slightly negative camber will wind up at or about 0 at higher speeds.

Hybrid96EK

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^ Ever seen the front of one of the Ferrari F1 cars and noted the amount of camber going on there? If it wasn't good I highly doubt the constructor's champion of the pinnacle of international motorsport would use it </TD></TR></TABLE>

You can't say that because a Ferrari runs x amount of camber that it must be good for an everyday street car. Comparing apples to oranges.

JV

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In fact, its more important then toe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How so?