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Old 06-06-2012, 04:00 AM
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Default Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

Hello all,

Finally got my EM1 out of storage for the summer, and went for a little drive. Came home and noticed my white valvecover has a "burnt" spot on it where the timing belt is located. We pulled off the valve cover and side timing belt covers and some how the timing belt moved a good 1/4 inch or more and actually rubbed grooves into the side covers.

Needless to say I ordered a new timing belt, but what could have caused this so it doesnt happen again?


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Justin

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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

im amazed that every cell phone has a camera and people still dont take pics when they post a thread like this.
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im amazed that every cell phone has a camera and people still dont take pics when they post a thread like this.
Sorry that im at work and car is at home. Plus what would you like a picture of? the rubbing on the valve cover? All you needa say is if there is to be a guide for the timing belt not to move or not. No need to be rude
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

where exactly is it rubbing? on the intake or exhaust side?
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

Its rubbing on driver side. The belt has literaly moved off the cam gears a good 1/4" and seems like maybe there should be a guide to keep it pushed fully onto the gears?
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

As mentioned, pictures are always helpful.

Sounds like the belt may not have been tensioned properly or the tensioner is bad.
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

But is there anything that keeps the belt straight on the gears besides the tensioner? I know some cars have a washer on the crank pulley that keeps the belt from moving off the gear.
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Originally Posted by roadsqueegy95
But is there anything that keeps the belt straight on the gears besides the tensioner? I know some cars have a washer on the crank pulley that keeps the belt from moving off the gear.
No.

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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

This is the timing gear right behind the crank pulley. Is there to be a concave washer on both sides helping guide the timing belt?
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Originally Posted by roadsqueegy95
This is the timing gear right behind the crank pulley. Is there to be a concave washer on both sides helping guide the timing belt?
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

you should have 1 washer on the outside of the belt.
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

Originally Posted by kyden
you should have 1 washer on the outside of the belt.
If you look at the pic RonJ posted it clearly shows 2 washers for each side of the belt
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

Thanks guys, seems to be that im missing the outside washer!
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

Originally Posted by Dc4LsTeG
If you look at the pic RonJ posted it clearly shows 2 washers for each side of the belt
and the pic isn't correct. he has an obd2 motor.
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

Originally Posted by kyden
and the pic isn't correct. he has an obd2 motor.
The factory service manual diagram I posted above is for the 99-00 Civic Si B16a2 engine.

However, the diagram at Majestic Honda shows only one guide plate located on the engine side of the crank gear:



My guess is that this^ is correct.
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Default Re: Timing Belt rubbing valve cover?

Originally Posted by kyden
and the pic isn't correct. he has an obd2 motor.
Your right it depends on the timing gear
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