shesinmyroom

So ive been contemplating wat kind of engine to get , i was looking at the b16a jdm http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000...age&item=30005
but dont really know if its obd1 ? also since i live in the lame state of cali i wanna get a bar'd does anybody know wat i will be needing the engine is going into a 93 si hatch,
Anyone?

hondaluver19

you can't bar a JDM B16 in your civic. You have to get a USDM B16, either the B16A3 from an Obd1 Del Sol or the Obd2 B16A2 from the 96-97 Del Sol or 99-00 Civic SI. Me and my buddy just talked to the smog ref last week. We are in the inland empire area of so cal by the way, and he says, he will not pass a JDM motor what so ever. They are higher compression motors and he doesn't care if they have all the smog equipment on it. He will not visually pass it.


Best bet for you, is contact your local Ref Station, and ask him what your options are. And go from there. Cause from what I've seen on HT, alot of the ref's are different. Hope this helps.

shesinmyroom

Idk about that man ? up here in nor cal its diffrent i guess, my freind got his h22 bard jus changed the ecu and intake mani to a usdm and got it passed , i was also ther wen the reff bard a b18c so its probably diffrent down ther.

ricky00

u can bar jdm motors in cali at the moment!!! just make sure its a newer engine than ur car and im pretty sure hmo will have obd1 motor just ask

shesinmyroom

Yes indeed i knew you could just double chekin about it ! Yeah i called them up they have Obd1 this should be good start to a project ! Do you know wat Ecu is the is usdm one for b16?

hondaluver19

I know its possible to get done. But in my area, the Ref is saying no. But you need all the smog equipment from a OBD1 B16 that was in the 93-95 Del Sol. Along with the OBD1 Us spec P30 Ecu (rare and pricey), and the Usdm IM with TB. The JDM TB doesn't come with a MAP sensor. And the correct wire harness. And the OEM Cat for the B16 Del Sol. I might be missing something, but thats what I remember. Me and a buddy did this swap in his 94 civic. I called the Ref first and he told me what we needed to do with the JDM B16. But it took him a little over a year to get everything and actually bring it to the Ref, just for him to deny us. So thats why I'm saying talk to the REF, verify with him what you are doing and what you need, and then do it again right before you make your app. It seems like these guys make up there own rules or something sometimes. Cause I know plenty of other people that have gotten there JDM B16s bar'd. From what your saying, it sounds like they got there heads on straight up there. So good luck and i hope i gave you some help.

Just some heads up, make sure you get a brand new Oem CAT and O2 sensor. And if your going aftermarket on headers or intake, make sure you have CARB numbers visible.

Mrevann

Buy a Skunk2 IM ... with CARB sticker ur straight .... or just look at my build thread.. u can use a GSR harness u just have to tuck like 3 plugs.. P30 Ecu is hard to find for me right now ... but ya. i got my motor from HMO and they are a big help with this. just tell them what car u got and what engine u wanna put in ..

Mrevann

all u need to do is make it look USDM as much as possible

shesinmyroom

P30 ecu usdm ? how do i know its the legit one?
You bought your motor from ther , did you have complications buying it thru them?

Mrevann

somone sells on here and no complications... i just hate that they cease the motor in salt Water and it makes the bolt hard to get off..

shesinmyroom

Wer would i make a posting to find Ecu im sorta new to this ? do you know of any site to buy usdm motors, i really Have Max hate for California smog

Mrevann

just buy from Hmotors. then get a Skunk2 IM which is like $200 change sparkplugs/wires make sure u check ur dizzy. then borrow a P30 ECU from someone ... go get it smog. u wont past the first time.

shesinmyroom

yeah My buddys got a p30 ecu, why wont it past the first time? hopefully i get it bard soon cuz i know the ref and he said he doesnt know for how much longer ther gonna let jdm engies bar

94EG8

USDM P30 will read 37820-P30-AXX
JDM P30 will read 37820-P30-0XX or JXX or 9XX

SiR_EG6

I am going through this dilemma as well. I might register my car in Nevada to avoid all this headache.

eghondachick93

I'm looking at the same swap or a b20 swap..best bet is to check regulations in the state before you even decide on the swap. I went through the same issue in florida looking to see what they will take and what they wont.