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Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si?

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Old 05-15-2003, 05:31 PM
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Is there a bolton alternatvie to the ATS 4.929?

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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (cruzersi00)

Um - you have to crack the tranny to put in any final drive. You could use the 98 spec ITR 4.785 FD if you want that..

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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (navin)

yeah you could use my 4.7 in my itr engine.....but then i guess i really like it in my tranny


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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (navin)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by navin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um - you have to crack the tranny to put in any final drive. You could use the 98 spec ITR 4.785 FD if you want that..

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Remember that one requires an ITR or GSR diff.
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (cruzersi00)

call up quaife you better of asking people that has the know how.
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (SioneSi)

dont put a final drive in si tranny..

u can get a final drive, but dont put that hoe in a si...

get a quaife lsd. or the b16 hydro tranny + lsd...man lsd...lsd is good...


lsd.....
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (Paranoid Android)

i want to put in an ats 4.9x in my itr tranny. is cracking open the tranny generally not a good idea? like rape?
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (Jawad)

openning up a tranny is ok. aslong as you have all the tools and a shop manual to put it back together. you also have to lay out the gears in order. good luck!
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (Paranoid Android)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paranoid Android &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont put a final drive in si tranny..

u can get a final drive, but dont put that hoe in a si...

get a quaife lsd. or the b16 hydro tranny + lsd...man lsd...lsd is good...


lsd.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

DO NOT SPEAK UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!! yes this directed towards you PARANOID ANDROID!


i have driven the following

b16 with ls tranny.....TURD....a big SLOW ONE
b16 with 4.4 final (us tranny) fun.....
b16 with 4.785 final drive installed on a US b16 tranny.....hey this little thing is a blast!!

b16 with 4.9 ATS final drive.....holy crap....how fast did i just go through first through forth?

a 4.9 final will dramatically increase the driving pleasure of a b16!!!!!!!!!!

PERIOD!!!

add an lsd to any of the above....even more fun!!!

if you have any questions on this or would like to order an ATS 4.9 or jdm 4.785 please call me

r and d motorsports
843 760-4804

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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (chad)

Thanks Chad!

I have no doubt that the ATS would be very fun. But this is my daily driver and I do a lot of highway driving. I don't know if my girlfriend nor I could stand going 80 on the freeway for very long with a 4.929.

Is there a 4.7 that will bolt up to a US Tranny without extra parts? I don't mind spending $750 on the ATS, but would prefer 4.7.

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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (cruzersi00)

I have been told by several people that a 4.78 FD WILL NOT fit in the B16A tranny casing UNLESS it has been shaved to put it in. If this is true or not I do not know. But that is what several shops have told me and also what I have read on the INTERNET. I DO NOT HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE on wether or not this is true.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil_Wizard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have been told by several people that a 4.78 FD WILL NOT fit in the B16A tranny casing UNLESS it has been shaved to put it in. If this is true or not I do not know. But that is what several shops have told me and also what I have read on the INTERNET. I DO NOT HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE on wether or not this is true.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is NOT true....

i have a 4.785 in mine.....im me to find out how to make it work withOUT shaving anything!!!!

4.9 is just under 200 rpms more. in my opinion it is worth it!!!! 4.9 kicks *** in a b16
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (chad)

just go on the waiting list and buy a ITR LSD TRANNY WITH 4.7FD.... woot...
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (Irishweird00)

Newbie question but, What exactly is a Final Drive and what does it do?
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Default Re: Is there a 4.785 Final Drive that fits USDM 1999 Civic Si? (Evil_Wizard)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil_Wizard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have been told by several people that a 4.78 FD WILL NOT fit in the B16A tranny casing UNLESS it has been shaved to put it in. If this is true or not I do not know. But that is what several shops have told me and also what I have read on the INTERNET. I DO NOT HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE on wether or not this is true.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are correct. It doesn't bolt right in. I just got my car back on the road using a 99Si tranny and a 4.78 final drive. You need to use a GSR or TypeR diff, in order to make it work. As far as the difference in cruising speed. My RPM's are only about 200 clicks higher than before, so it's not bad at all.
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