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Old 11-15-2004, 11:28 AM
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My temp guage in my eg doesnt move after driving for like 30 miles. At first i thought it was just the thermostat so i just changed it yesterday and the heat works great within a couple of mins but the temp guage stays on cold the whole time. It worked when it was warmer out and it actually worked yesterday before i changed the thermostat but now it doesnt move at all after a long drive?!?!!

Can anyone please help?

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Old 11-15-2004, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Temp Guage doesnt move please help (vtec69)

It probably just broke. I wish I could be more helpful, but our gauge clusters have a history of being gay and fragile. I'd see if you can't swap a friend's cluster in there for a moment and see if that does it.
Old 11-15-2004, 11:43 AM
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but its wierd sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt
it work fine during the summer and now that its cold out it doesnt move most of the time
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anyone??
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check the connection to the sender. if you were messing around in that area it could have gotten bumped or not plugged in all the way.
Old 11-15-2004, 02:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check the connection to the sender. if you were messing around in that area it could have gotten bumped or not plugged in all the way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i havent check that yet but i did unplug it when i changed the thermostat but i also remember hearing it click into place when i pluged it back in
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make sure all the connections are clean, plugs get dirty some times.

have you done anything behind your cluster? or to your cluster? might be a bad connection or messed up gauge.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure all the connections are clean, plugs get dirty some times.

have you done anything behind your cluster? or to your cluster? might be a bad connection or messed up gauge.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i did take out the cluster a few times and painted the bulbs amber but it lights up fine
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i did take out the cluster a few times and painted the bulbs amber but it lights up fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

but it worked after i did that but now it doesnt and i havent touched the cluster in a while
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you may want to pull it out to make sure one of the plugs hasn't wiggled it's way loose or one of the contacts has gotten funky.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you may want to pull it out to make sure one of the plugs hasn't wiggled it's way loose or one of the contacts has gotten funky.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i could try that thanks
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i just pulled out the cluster and checked over all of the wires in that area and they all look good

anyone have any other suggestions
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any suggestions?
Old 11-28-2004, 10:15 AM
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anyone have any idea
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swap clusters and checkif they work.
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i cant find anyone to swap with
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Default Re: Temp Guage doesnt move please help (vtec69)

check continuity from the sender to the ECU... don't try a million things, diagnose it.
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defenitly a good idea
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Default Re: Temp Guage doesnt move please help (vtec69)

You temp gauge doesn't read off your thermostat (that switch on the thermo housing is for the fan), there is a temp sending unit for the temp gauge on your cluster. Its a one pin sensor located on the head under the dizzy to the right for the coolant outlet to the radiator (for b-series at least, im looking at my bare b16 head now). I had the same problem on my DA, and that was the culprit.

You can also test to see if it is your gauge cluster thats not work too. You can ground the 1 pin connector going to the sending unit (once you find it), and your temp gauge should shot to H if its working (but don't ground for longer than 2-3 seconds though cause you could fry the temp gauge, just make sure it moves). If not then there another problem to consider. Also look for short/break in the wire going to the temp sending unit.

Oh yeah the signal for the temp gauge doesn't ever goes though or to the ecu, so i wouldn't brother with that.

Hope this helps, good luck!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You temp gauge doesn't read off your thermostat (that switch on the thermo housing is for the fan), there is a temp sending unit for the temp gauge on your cluster. Its a one pin sensor located on the head under the dizzy to the right for the coolant outlet to the radiator (for b-series at least, im looking at my bare b16 head now). I had the same problem on my DA, and that was the culprit.

You can also test to see if it is your gauge cluster thats not work too. You can ground the 1 pin connector going to the sending unit (once you find it), and your temp gauge should shot to H if its working (but don't ground for longer than 2-3 seconds though cause you could fry the temp gauge, just make sure it moves). If not then there another problem to consider. Also look for short/break in the wire going to the temp sending unit.

Hope this helps, good luck!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow some really good info
Ill check that out in a couple of mins and let you know what happens
thanks for the help
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow some really good info
Ill check that out in a couple of mins and let you know what happens
thanks for the help</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup you were 100% correct
The sensor got unplugged and the whole time I thought the sensor on the thermo housing controled the guage but its the sensor on the head
Thank you very much for your help

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not to jack your thread but would this cause vtec not to work if the temp guage doesn't read that the car is warm?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phatch99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to jack your thread but would this cause vtec not to work if the temp guage doesn't read that the car is warm?</TD></TR></TABLE>

vtec still worked even though the temp guage didnt work
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phatch99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to jack your thread but would this cause vtec not to work if the temp guage doesn't read that the car is warm?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, the temp sender is only connected to the gauge. The ECU is getting its signal from the sensor on the thermostat housing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, the temp sender is only connected to the gauge. The ECU is getting its signal from the sensor on the thermostat housing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

also on a side note on this topic
my thermo was stuck open and would take my car a very long time to warm up
this was causeing vtec not to work until like 15mins of driving around
but now that ive changed the thermostat it kicks on right away


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