vtecvoodoo

you know damn well that there is no ******* way you can win "best jdm" without takata harnesses! C`mon, Man

STEALTHMODECOUPE

can someone explain to me why 4 pt harness's are dangerous and why 3pt and 5pt are better?? thanks..o and yes this is a serious question

adaM

Doctor CorteZ

great , another know-it-all
take your foot out of your mouth and listen.

its not what you actually do in a rollover , its the fact if the roof came down on you the open part of the STOCK belt would allow your body to move inward.

a harness will keep you straight up , making your neck the hinge point.

NO rollover protection NO harnesses - its that simple.

Kamin

UM takata IS A NAME, your paying all that for A NAME
they are NO BETTER than sparco or OPM or simpson or any other company that makes a FIA approved harness.
they are overpriced for what they are.
all these little JDM ****** want them because there 'madd l33t jdm cool y0!'
they work no better/worse than any other brand thats approved.

just because its expensive dosent mean its the best



[Modified by KAMiN, 10:58 AM 11/27/2002]

Doctor CorteZ

they're cheaper because you dont pay for a boat ride also.
not like its cheaper construction or anything.

n1ek

they lack the anti-sub strap.
this strap keeps the harness from moving up your body in the event of a crash.
5 or 6pt harnesses are the only ones that do this.
the extra strap also keeps the driver from sliding out from under the harness.

n1ek

i never said they work better.
just don't see your point.
sell what you have to buy cheaper stuff. obviously, this guy wants takatas, so why do you care if he has them?

n1ek

wow, so when all that metal comes down and slams you in the head...if you wore a stock seatbelt...you would move inward and if by CHANCE that part of the roof wasn't already crushed...you would be okay?

-Whitey-

i have one sparco speed seat on the drivers side and one sparco 4 point harness.
i drove around all summer with no roll bar because my buddy who is powdercoating it is slow as hell. but if your gonna get all the safety **** then get a damn roll bar first

<---b16a eh2 who cant wait for spring and my new roll bar(thats almost a year old)

ahcjar103

yes....safety.....i think i love it.

Solracer

You would have a better chance of surving casue you could more around. Depending on the accident if the car roll several times the roof usuallt does not get to pushed it, from the one that I have seen the roof colapse's the most when Stops on its roof, there is usually a moment or two before the roof gives way, in that moment you could move in a stock seatbelt, in a harness you could not.

tonyxcom

I guess you could argue this all day long since nobody know what will happen in any particular rollover.

But follow me here....

Using the stock belt or the harness, if the roof doesn't collapse over your head you are more then likely going to not have any major neck injuries.

If you are using the stock belt and the roof collapses over your head then there is a small chance of sustaining any major neck injuries.

If you are using a racing harness and the roof collapses over your head then there is a large chance of sustaining a major neck injury.

You do the math. And at the end of the day, do whatever you want. I dont care. We informed you of the risks.

n1ek

i see.
so, when i roll my car and it's upside down...i lean to the inside before the roof collapses?

Doogie Howser

not only in a rollover but with a 4point in most crashes wouldnt it be worse then a stock seat belt, i mean we covered why its worse in a rollover but what about a front end crash dont you have a large chance of breaking rips and internal damge with the harness.??? i just dont really see how the harness is safer it seems it causes more damage

vtecvoodoo

No, you put your head between your legs and kiss your *** goodbye.

Richard.

lol....

tonyxcom

Edit. Fixed pic, forgot that I was looking at the website locally.

This was a moderate rollover and the car is a full time drag racer today. So the majority of the damgage was panel related. The roof was replace though.

As you can see, even in this moderate rollover a harness would have caused serious damage.


[Modified by tonyxcom, 8:01 PM 11/27/2002]

SkyeC

Are you just not reading the replies to your silly *** question or what?

vtecvoodoo

can`t see ****, newb

Richard.

umm that red X you mean?

Doogie Howser

i found this in another thread if it helps



just add .orig.jpg to the above pix for larger view

disordeR

they're bagging on him because he has takatas and he's using them IMPROPERLY. now to use a racing harness PROPERLY, he is simply trying to say that you can buy a roll bar with a cheaper harness and use it PROPERLY and be SAFER for a lesser price.

use logic my friend.

n1ek

did you know that more than half of occupants that stay in the car in a rollover are injured or killed by vehicle roof intrusion? the other half didn't even have roof contact. and of that half...more than half again were wearing a stock seatbelt.
the others had no restraint whatsoever.

my risks?
the math? seems like i am the ONE that did any math. i know you HEARD about how bad this is...did you ever THINK?

n1ek

what are you talking about?
i'm replying to these guys..trying to shoot them off as the bandwagon rolls by.

n1ek

umm....stock seatbelts do lock in a crash.
and all seatbelts are built to "give" in the event of a crash.