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Old 04-13-2012, 04:20 PM
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So lately, my 95 hatch hasn't been running well. The tach jumps around and it runs roughly. A few months ago the car stopped starting entirely due to a bad ICM/igniter so I replaced that, well yesterday the igniter tested bad again so I replaced it again, but the problem persists. The coil tests good. Anyone have any ideas of what could be wrong? or know of anything that could make the ICM go bad prematurely?
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Is your distributor oem or aftermarket?

Have you cleaned your IACV?
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Distributor is original OEM, I have not cleaned the IACV.
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No CEL either.
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check your ignition grounds .. will cause these issues to a T ..
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Default Re: Tach jumping, running roughly

Originally Posted by element600rr
check your ignition grounds .. will cause these issues to a T ..
I'll check tomorrow the revs dropped to 0 and the car died while driving tonight, had to give it a ton of gas after starting to get it to go. I don't think the ignition ground would cause a faulty ICM though
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Bump, grounds are good.
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What igniter are you using? I've had nothing but excellent luck using the brown NEC ones. Any of the Hitatchi/off brand ones I've had bad luck with. You can pull the NEC ones out of any 90-93 Accord and they work just fine in Civic distributors.
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I'm using an autozone one :/ maybe I'll see if I can pull one from the junk yard.
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I'm using an autozone one :/ maybe I'll see if I can pull one from the junk yard.
See what the warranty is on it, I would exchange it.
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I can't take the one I just put in back I had it tested and it tests good
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put back in the igniter and everything was ok for a while drove about 10 miles parked for a while then when I started the car again, happened again.
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In your case I would not be surprised if the whole distributor needs to be replaced.
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put back in the igniter and everything was ok for a while drove about 10 miles parked for a while then when I started the car again, happened again.
I had the same exact problem, ended up being a bad/shorted wire on the igniter because the igniter tested good. You could give that a shot. Those 10 miles you drove, was the car running just fine? Have you reset your ignition timing since you've been taking the dizzy on and off? Have you tried a different coil even though it tested good? When was the last time you replaced cap/rotor/plugs/wires?
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Originally Posted by 94preludeguy
I had the same exact problem, ended up being a bad/shorted wire on the igniter because the igniter tested good. You could give that a shot. Those 10 miles you drove, was the car running just fine? Have you reset your ignition timing since you've been taking the dizzy on and off? Have you tried a different coil even though it tested good? When was the last time you replaced cap/rotor/plugs/wires?
Changed the dizzy today still happening. Haven't taken the dizzy off until today, marked it when I did it, and put the new one on the same way. Cap and rotor and wires were replaced within the past year, plugs within the past 4 months.
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So, it turns out even thought the dizzy was a reman, the ICM might be original, but this problem was still occurring when my ICM was testing good, so I'm at a loss as to what could be causing this.
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Anyone else?
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Changed the dizzy today still happening. Haven't taken the dizzy off until today, marked it when I did it, and put the new one on the same way. Cap and rotor and wires were replaced within the past year, plugs within the past 4 months.
A new one you mean another dizzy? if you take off the original and mark it put another on, marking is not going to do any good unless the rotor is exactly the same as the original, or you will have to re time the engine.
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ok I'll check the engine timing, but that still shouldn't cause a problem with the tach should it?
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ok I'll check the engine timing, but that still shouldn't cause a problem with the tach should it?
I would think it would, idling is rpms.
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Yes, I was thinking it might cause a problem with the idle, but my main problem is the tach needle jumps, and when that happens the tach isn't accurate, I'm not actually at the RPM the tach states while its jumping.
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Never messed with timing before and I don't have a light so my neighbor helped me, evidentally it was at 10 which is still within spec but was advanced to 12 and the car seems much better. Is this just coinincidence or is it plausible 2 degrees could provide a significant difference?
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Originally Posted by s13hero
Yes, I was thinking it might cause a problem with the idle, but my main problem is the tach needle jumps, and when that happens the tach isn't accurate, I'm not actually at the RPM the tach states while its jumping.
but if you fix the idel then youll fix the tach so your main problem should be the idel. also no rpm guage is accurate if you want accurate rpms a good scanner like the snap on modis will be closer than a car guage. just sayin.
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I don't mind minor inaccuracies but when the problem was occurring the needle would sweep higher, and be off by as much as 5,000 RPMs at times. The needle on the tach would jump but the engine speed wouldn't actually change.
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