turbotime

Ok here is what is happening to my car, im not sure if its becuase i need to put some new tranny fluid in or becuase my clutch is going:

When I start the car there is no clutch pressure at all, ususally the clutch pedal gets stuck all the way depressed, like a brake pedal would when the brake mc fails. After I warm the car up a lil and pump the clutch repeatedly I can shift into gear, but i cant at first.

The condition has gotten progressively worse, now im having trouble getting into gear even when the car is warmed up...

I want to know if this symptom could be caused by low tranny fluid cause somethin was leakin from my car and the mechanic said it was oil, but now that this has started im thinkin it might be the tranny fluid. Please advise! I need this car to get to/from school daily@

Archidictus

Clutch engagement/disengagement isn't effected by the transmission fluid level: it's controlled solely by the clutch master and slave cylinders and the clutch fork/pressure plate interplay. One of those is ******* you right now and you need to kick the bitch in the teeth for playing you like that. Check for fluid leaks around the clutch pedal (inside) and around the master and slave cylinder areas on the firewall and transmission housing.

Bitch clutch problems. Hate the ******* .

EGinNY

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Clutch engagement/disengagement isn't effected by the transmission fluid level: it's controlled solely by the clutch master and slave cylinders and the clutch fork/pressure plate interplay. One of those is ******* you right now and you need to kick the bitch in the teeth for playing you like that. Check for fluid leaks around the clutch pedal (inside) and around the master and slave cylinder areas on the firewall and transmission housing.

Bitch clutch problems. Hate the ******* .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Happened to my hatch , turned out to be the boot on the
slave cylinders cylinder
Look under the large rubber boot near your engine code

97mini-me

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGinNY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Happened to my hatch , turned out to be the boot on the
slave cylinders cylinder
Look under the large rubber boot near your engine code </TD></TR></TABLE>

Same exact thing happened to my hatch. I pulled the boot back and fluid ran out. Luckily it is easy to change slave cylinders. Mine took about 20 minutes to fix and bleed clutch fluid.

SOHCejcivic

yeah it sounds like a slave cylinder, if you can't get it into gear you have to shut off the car, put it in gear, start the car. did it for 3 days, then fixed it in about 20-30 minutes.

EH-3

yeah. hes rite. same thing happened to me. i was on a hill, put it in second gear and had to ride it home on that gear. slave cylinder.

turbotime

awesome, this thread saved me all that cash on tranny fluid! Ok so a new slave cylinder costs approx how much? And do I need any special **** to install it (ie: engine lift, etc)? Do you know if hondaautomotiveparts.com sells them?

JD_B18CDX

Thing to check.
1. clutch lines
2. Slave cylinder (located in tranny).
3. Clutch master cylinder.

Both slave and master cylinder can have wear on them and may not pump fluid properly.

turbotime

so do i need to take the tranny off to get to the slave and master cylinders? What should i look for when checking them?

Deemeetree

Donkey punch your mechanic in the *****.

Your Clutch Master Cylinder is located right next to your Brake Booster. Look at your firewall, driver side. You'll see it there a little below the surface.

Check for leaks around the fittings. Follow the line ALL the way to your Slave Cylinder. The line runs on the firewall, under your battery, along the side, then to the front of the transmission. You can also check for leaks INSIDE the cab where the clutch pedal is. The "rod" connects to the Clutch Master Cylinder and usually leaks from there. Feel for any fluid buildup there.

There you'll see the Slave Cylinder. Check for leaks around that fitting.

turbotime

I know for a fact that the rod connecting to the clutch has what i though was 'grease' but must be tranny fluid, on it. SO that would mean the master cylinder is bad? I dunno what is on the piston but whatever it is is greasy and dark....

Deemeetree

There it is. It's your Clutch Master Cylinder. That rubber grommet/seal should be dry.

turbotime

so how hard is this to replace?

turbotime

^

turbotime

how hard is it to replace the clutch master cylinder

dxhatch93

when shifting through gears normally, and it kinda grinds a bit, be a cause of low transmission fluid?

turbotime

probably your synchros, but thats off topic! I need to know if replacing the master cylinder is something i can do myslef!?

turbotime

Here it is:




SO how do I replace this? Can it be done easily or is it a long/involved process? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP THIS IS URGENT!!!!!!

turbotime

awesome, thanks that really helps! (finally)

so how much does a masterC and slaveC cost? I figure I might as well replace both. My car has 210k miles so i fiure its about time! Ill look at that line u talked about, see if thats leaking too.

Thanks! keep the info coming! By bleed the system do you mean drain the tranny fluid? Also, does hondaautomotiveparts.com carry the master and slave cylinders?

turbotime

ok I got prices on the SC and MC, they are pretty cheap. I also located the SC, but couldnt find the MC. In my search I found this loose line (circled) should it go anywhere? We followed it and it seems to connect to the right axle boot.... Also is my MC anywhere in this pic? I couldnt find it in the engine bay!

snatch

By bleeding the system he means bleeding the clutch fluid. You do not have to do anything with the tranny. Replace the clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder, both of which can be bought either from hondaautomotiveparts.com or the dealer, or slhonda.com. After you're done and everything is back together, there is a bleeder valve on the front of the slave cylinder pointing towards your fan. Do a search for how to bleed the clutch lines and that will tell you how to do it...as I don't feel like typing it. Be careful when disconnecting the lines from the slave cylinder and the master cylinder. Do not bend them.

EDIT: The clutch master cylinder is just to the drivers side of the brake master cylinder.

turbotime

ok so what about the circled line? Should it go anywhere?

I took another pic, is this the MC:



Again, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

turbotime

cmon

Echo7847

Find out where that hose is attached to, it shouldnt be there. There should be a short amount of tubing attached to the resevoir leading to the master cylinder directly below it.

Clamp the line and remove it from the mc (sometimes its easier to unbolt the resevoir to have more room for the mc. Unbolt the MC by the 2 nuts attaching it to the bulkhead. Remove the clevis pin attached to the top of the clutch pedal and remove the unit from the vehicle.

installation is reverse.

snatch

turbotime... yes that is the MC for the clutch that you have circled. Removal/installation is a snap.