cioli

i have this problem for about few months
when outside it's hot and the engine it's hot too , starts hard ...sometimes i have to w8 a few minutes until it starts
the engine spins but does not start , when it start it idles perfect and the engine works very fine
i read somewhere about same problem ...was ok after he cleaned up something at the intake
i will apreciate any ideas
and sorry for the language , i'm not english

cioli

bump for some help
starts to be hot and it's quite anoying

Chiovnidca

Have you checked the main relay for cracked solder joints?

Targa250R

Sounds like a main relay problem.

cioli

i read about this problem in the past
people that have this problem said that the engine dies sudently ...at the idle , or when driving
i never has this problem , if the engine starts it never dies . It works perfect
anywhy i should check the main relay to be sure

byronl

yup, when my main relay went south i had the same symptoms as you did. Car never died when it was started but it would be hard to start when it's hot. You can resolder the joints in the main relay or buy a new one at honda which will probably be around $50 or $60

ghost_ryder35

main relay most likley. Coolant tempature sensor can also cause long cranks when engine is hot. I would replace coolant temp sensor first and then replace the relay just because the coolant temp sensor is cheaper. You can solder your old relay instead of buying a new one but I wouldnt recommend it becuase it is hard to do it right. Main relay $50-75 at Honda, Coolant Temp Sensor $25-35 at Honda

Chiovnidca

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cioli

tryed to start it today and was extremly difficult
i pulled out the main relay ...looks fine for me
what do you say ?

Chiovnidca

Looks like a couple of em are cracked.

Layziejoe775

tyring starting it up with a new battery or something....under extreme conditions a battery that is not cold cranking enough will make your alternator work harder thus making it difficult to start up a car. Your primary startup is your battery and starter, don't let your secondary (alternator) do it's job for it....good luck. Just my 2cent...

Seatown

^ Same thing is happening to my car. I was told it was the main relay, so I guess I can expect my car to have issues in the sun again. I'm going to check the main relay first though.