Spark but no start
05-21-2007, 12:37 PM
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Spark but no start
Alright, so when tuning my car the other day we had some problems with my ignition. Turns out that i had a weak coil and rotor. So my tuner let me take off his coil and rotor and use it for tuning. So today i got all my parts, i got new ngk plugs and gapped them down to .25 and got a new ignition coil and rotor. Now the car wont start. It turns over but nothing. Its getting spark. I dont get it.. 
05-21-2007, 12:39 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (juevi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juevi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What color is the spark? What kind of coil and rotor did you buy?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like something isn't plugged in right. Or you aren't getting fuel. Is the fuel pump priming?
Sounds like something isn't plugged in right. Or you aren't getting fuel. Is the fuel pump priming?
05-21-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (juevi)
Bought some "performance" coil from autozone, g-force might of been the name, and the rotor was from advanced auto i cant remember the name but i can find out if you want.
05-21-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (ek forever guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sounds like something isn't plugged in right. Or you aren't getting fuel. Is the fuel pump priming?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Fuel pump is priming. I can smell gas after cranking it over a few times.
I also tested the coil and its at the correct voltage.
Sounds like something isn't plugged in right. Or you aren't getting fuel. Is the fuel pump priming?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Fuel pump is priming. I can smell gas after cranking it over a few times.
I also tested the coil and its at the correct voltage.
05-21-2007, 12:43 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (Boostedb20EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bought some "performance" coil from autozone, g-force might of been the name, and the rotor was from advanced auto i cant remember the name but i can find out if you want. </TD></TR></TABLE>
*slaps himself on forhead*
Just so people know. Honda's (as well as most jap. cars) are very picky when it comes to ignition parts, VERY picky. Factory parts work much better than aftermarket.
So is this an "external" coil (modified cap), or internal? Did you see what color the spark is? You can do this by taking a plug out, pluging it back into the wire, and use INSULATED (rubber handle) plyers and hold the side of the spark plug do the side of an engine bracket or good groud. See what color it looks like. Whitish, blueish, red/orange ish?
*slaps himself on forhead*
Just so people know. Honda's (as well as most jap. cars) are very picky when it comes to ignition parts, VERY picky. Factory parts work much better than aftermarket.
So is this an "external" coil (modified cap), or internal? Did you see what color the spark is? You can do this by taking a plug out, pluging it back into the wire, and use INSULATED (rubber handle) plyers and hold the side of the spark plug do the side of an engine bracket or good groud. See what color it looks like. Whitish, blueish, red/orange ish?
05-21-2007, 12:45 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (juevi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juevi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
*slaps himself on forhead*
Just so people know. Honda's (as well as most jap. cars) are very picky when it comes to ignition parts, VERY picky. Factory parts work much better than aftermarket.
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Recommended by tuner that i buy that.
And the spark was a yellow/orange.
Edit: its internal.
*slaps himself on forhead*
Just so people know. Honda's (as well as most jap. cars) are very picky when it comes to ignition parts, VERY picky. Factory parts work much better than aftermarket.
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Recommended by tuner that i buy that.
And the spark was a yellow/orange.
Edit: its internal.
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Re: Spark but no start (juevi)
are the plug wires plugged in in the right order? it sounds stupid, but my friend's car wouldnt start for about 2 months. His car died, he replaced the distributor, and he never plugged it in correctly. 2 months later, the first time i laid eyes on it, i changed around the plug configuration and it fired right up. 2 months....
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Re: Spark but no start (Boostedb20EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Recommended by tuner that i buy that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What kind is it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the spark was a yellow/orange.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it's yellow/orange, then you deff. have an ignition problem. Put a Honda coil in it and it will be White/Blue.
Yellow/orange = WEAK spark.
What kind is it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the spark was a yellow/orange.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it's yellow/orange, then you deff. have an ignition problem. Put a Honda coil in it and it will be White/Blue.
Yellow/orange = WEAK spark.
05-21-2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (Boostedb20EH2)
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correct
Edit. Firing order is 1-3-4-2
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correct
Edit. Firing order is 1-3-4-2
05-21-2007, 12:51 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (juevi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juevi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What kind is it?
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Gsport
What kind is it?
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05-21-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (Boostedb20EH2)
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Well man, if your spark is that color, it's without a doubt weak. 95% of the time, it's a coil. I'd throw a honda part in it.
By the way, there are MANY high powered Honda's out there running factory ignition, it's extreemly good, and with your plugs gapped down like that, you probably won't have a problem. IF you have a problem, it will only be at really high RPM, but I doubt you will, if it's tuned right.
May I ask who your tuner is?
Well man, if your spark is that color, it's without a doubt weak. 95% of the time, it's a coil. I'd throw a honda part in it.
By the way, there are MANY high powered Honda's out there running factory ignition, it's extreemly good, and with your plugs gapped down like that, you probably won't have a problem. IF you have a problem, it will only be at really high RPM, but I doubt you will, if it's tuned right.
May I ask who your tuner is?
05-21-2007, 12:57 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (juevi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juevi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
May I ask who your tuner is?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bob (cant remember his last name for the life of me).
On ohio hondas his name is 5speed4life chances are you heard of him. He is very reputable. From the cleveland area.
May I ask who your tuner is?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bob (cant remember his last name for the life of me).
On ohio hondas his name is 5speed4life chances are you heard of him. He is very reputable. From the cleveland area.
05-21-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (gsrturbo-ek)
Remember, when my dizzy took a ****, we replaced my ignition coil and rotor with his and it worked fine. Now all i have replaced on this car is spark plugs, rotor and coil...
05-21-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (Boostedb20EH2)
sounds like the part or parts you installed ar the problem time to narrow it down and see if its the coil or rotor ? the plug gap is kind of small is that what is called for ? i know stock gap is 1.1 mm .
05-21-2007, 06:40 PM
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Re: Spark but no start (dtapia)
Im in the process of returning them to .32, technically i hear alot of gaps for forced induction on the ngkbkr7's being a .25 to .28 gap.
05-22-2007, 10:59 AM
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I could see if my friend would let me, an obd2 one would work just find right? Only thing is the timing and everything isnt going to mess with my tune, right?
I also checked the ecu fuse and the cams gears are lined up..
I also checked the ecu fuse and the cams gears are lined up..