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Old 11-15-2007, 02:41 PM
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what up ya'll! im starting this topic cuz i hear everyone going back and forth about how n/a is better than turbo (im for the turbo sohc. yea!) but i want to hear input for all u car fans out there.

currently im build a turbo single cam del sol for endurance racing.
t3/t4 turbo .50 A/R
h beam rods
forged pistons still debating on comp ratio 9:1 or 10.5:1
custom head work
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IMO if i wanted to build on my sohc and wanted to make a drag car, i would get a turbo for it. but since i plan on autoxing and tougeing, im going with n/a b16a so i have the power right away instead of waiting for turbo lag.
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Na sohc's are pretty slow n/a and the only way to make power on them is to boost. I'm happy with my D15b but would also be happier with boost.
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thats what i was thinking @ first but im going up against some bad *** cars and through mountain terrain. N/A chokes through mountains
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i built a zc sohc w/12.6:1 compression in a crx and ran 12.9 @3500ft but yea they need boost
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if u stay with sohc just turbo it. i dont think ive ever seen a fast sohc n/a.
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A smaller turbo will have less lag, but I think that's kinda common knowledge these days.

As for your piston selection, I'd go with the 9:1
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I don't see enough n/a sohc builds...
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God these topics are so retarded. I see almost 10 a day now.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ej Girl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u stay with sohc just turbo it. i dont think ive ever seen a fast sohc n/a.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whats a fast N/A Single????
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't see enough n/a sohc builds...</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's a reason for this...
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To get any real powaaaa out of a SOHC you have to boost it, simple as that.
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theres a eg hatch that does 11.6sec in the 1/4
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go with boost sohc thers no choice but to boost i wudnt even supercharge a sohc cuz they hold boost pretty well.
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go with the 9:1 set up...less comp. means more you are able to boost it with out it going "POP"
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Boost ro swap.
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definately go boost....
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i tried to build a z6 n/a..spent some money and still slow..so i sold it and get a b16a jdm. and it is still slow. i am doing some internal high compression pistons and some cams upgrade soon
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you cant really make a really fast single cam,so id say boost
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crazyguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i tried to build a z6 n/a..spent some money and still slow..so i sold it and get a b16a jdm. and it is still slow. i am doing some internal high compression pistons and some cams upgrade soon</TD></TR></TABLE>And it will still be slow.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racingrevolution07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what up ya'll! im starting this topic cuz i hear everyone going back and forth about how n/a is better than turbo (im for the turbo sohc. yea!) but i want to hear input for all u car fans out there.

currently im build a turbo single cam del sol for endurance racing.
t3/t4 turbo .50 A/R
h beam rods
forged pistons still debating on comp ratio 9:1 or 10.5:1
custom head work
and so on


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I would have said go turbo on a SOHC since there's no hope for NA on these motors.

However, you mentioned "ENDURANCE RACING". Go NA. Swap a motor in. Keep it NA. Buy an H22. Keep it NA.

I'm guessing there are no mod. resistrcitions in your class since you want to slap on a turbo kit. Swap in a motor that breezes through 200hp instead of making a small, under equipped motor try to push out big numbers.

ENDURANCE is the key word in "endurance racing". For the price of headaches and other crap that comes up to make a reliable enough turbo setup, you could just go H22 or B series.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HarfordCTR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And it will still be slow. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah i know..
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yeah, a turbo single cam for endurance racing?
why not swap a ls and run a smaller turbo....

and no one will argue with you to build a N/A SOHC, a NA B-series is a better comparison.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sipolt89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you cant really make a really fast single cam,so id say boost</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean by this?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what do you mean by this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think he meant to say "u cant really make a really fast n/a single cam"


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