mattcxb18

I have a B18c1 . I want to know if anybody has compared the Skunk2 vs. the JG edlebrock. I don't want to hear, "some guy has this and he is fast" or "I heard edlebrock works w/ FI better". I am looking for 1/4 mile times or Dyno numbers.
*I want to know if anybody has compared the two head to head with a similar setup to me*. I am NOT going do have FI. The plans are just a few bolt ons, throttle body, mild cams, and mild head work- nothing else.

Please don't answer if you don't have experience with both.
I Just want real proof, not people's ideas and opinions.

Thanks. Matt



[Modified by mattcxb18, 11:41 PM 2/4/2003]

Chris y0!

some guy has the skunk2 and he is pretty fast.

serioulsy though, the edlebrock IS for f/i. get the skunk.


[Modified by Spoon Hybrid, 3:45 AM 2/5/2003]

mattcxb18

thats is something I would say....

What kind of difference over stock to the wheels w/ just I/H/E?


[Modified by mattcxb18, 11:49 PM 2/4/2003]

Chris y0!

just look at it this way... the skunk manifold is a splitting image of the b18c5... and Honda sure as hell spent a lot more time designing their intake than edlebrock did theirs.

ace1875

Well JG Edlebrock is a co product of JG Engine Dynamics right?! so why does JG choes not to use JG Edlebrock on there High power motors?! hmmmm...

Think about it

Cornbread Jr.

I had the Skunk2 before I went boosted (still have it now too) and I really liked it. I had a little less low-end power, but when I hit 6,000 rpm, it pulled really hard to red line. As far as the JG, I wish I had it now, but I don't think I 'd want it on a NA car unless I was redlining at 9,000 or higher. Just my .02

euclid

my brothers sisters mothers son told me that if you are not fi or you are not planning to rev to 10k dont ge tthe JG. the skunk is the itr replica.... which do you think will make better power throughout the powerband?!

and dont be ******* retarded posting all these disclaimers about replying unless you have "real experience with both" this is a civic forum... if you want to know something that b18c1 specific post in the integra forum.

and nobody reply to my post unless you have real experience with noobs trying to act like they know what they are talking about.

mattcxb18

A. Shut Up euclid!!
B. I already did post it in integra and got few responces.
C. The reason I posted those requests was to get a specific answer.
D. euclid go **** yourself!!!

wow I wish I had 600 posts dork!!!

conesmasher

Wow some vulgar words.

The JG Edlebrock has a larger tank before the intake runners, which allows air to disperse itself in a more even fashion. The JG also has shorter intake runners which allows air get to the cylinders more quickly, but because of it's size it is more of a F/I, just to reiterate the point.

The Skunk 2 intake manifold is nothing like the JG. Very much developed for NA racing hence their reputation for producing some of the best cams on the market. Just look at what they market too. I worked with Skunks race team this past summer in the garage while they would dyno tune Taz's car on our dyno. This car makes about 205whp when it is a brand new motor. But it is all motor, revs to 10,000 and just sounds like it wants to keep on making more power.

IMO if you are planning to do cams to get more top end out of the car do the skunk, if you plan on going to F/I go with JG, but if you aren't doing none of the above then just keep it stock and spend some money on or something.

mattcxb18

conesmasher

Yea, this past summer was pretty cool and all but you wanna know something funny. After every race they would bring the car back to our shop slap it on the dyno and it would make like 170whp. The damn car lost 35whp during the race, I couldn't believe it but this **** always had motors coming from skunk works all the time. This one guy would have the motor in and out all by himself within a matter of 2-3 hours, I thought that it was pretty amazing but it just goes to show what experience can give you. But now I can tell almost anyone how to build the baddest B16 NA motor on the planet!!

civic_sir94

im looking into building up my b16 engine, and i was wondering if you had any suggestions? im looking at ctr pistons, rods, rings, skunk2 stage one cams, adjustable cam gears, skunk2 or ITR intake manifold, spoon head gasket, haasport motor mounts, spoon bushings, spoon bored throttle body, possible reprogrammed ecu or just a new ecu. if any of this sounds like its not gonna mesh well, lemme know if you've got any suggestions.


[Modified by cIvIc_gSr95, 8:59 PM 2/4/2003]

conesmasher

You got most of the formula right with all the ctr stuff, but I would probablly look at the stage 2 cams and possibly a milled head, but you would definitly have to resort to some type of high, high octane gas.

Chris y0!

i know how to build a really fast b16

buy a b18c5, drop in civic-r crank, rods, and pistons

civic_sir94

ahaha

euclid

wow I wish I had 600 posts dork!!![/QUOTE]

sorry to colapse your thought process here... but your post count doesnt set you apart from anybody, the degree of stupididy associated with your posts will brand you a noob if you have 2 or 2000 posts, so you may never overcome the embarassment... jerk

tmkpres

The jg made an extra 46 hp on my b16turbo than the type R manifold, from what I heard the skunk is the same as the type R.

Chris y0!

wtf? is this a joke or do you make 900 horses?

mattcxb18

That was exactly what I said. That was a Good Try

Maybe you should not call people a noob, when you are one!!

tz-devil77

I installed one (jg) on a built type r. it lost 4 horsepower and 4 ft/lbs of torque. I havent tried the skunk2 but that is in the near future.

mattcxb18

Let us know. Good Luck w/ this one.

hybrid901

I have teh skunk on my b18c1 turbo I will be dynoing this saturday and then installing my JG intake mani and TB and going back teh middle of next week. I have been wondering the same thing myself so we will see. I would never put the JG on a all motor car btw.

mattcxb18

sic 1320 times hybird901!!


[Modified by mattcxb18, 9:03 PM 2/5/2003]

hybrid901

Thanks

I'll be trying to better them with larger slicks a week from sunday.

euclid

i realize that this is not what you want to hear but you will lose power over your stock manifold on the jg manifold untill 7k rpms if you are "NOT" going turbo, and if you are not fi then you can not get an accurate assesment of the gains of this manifold by looking at a turbo setup.
i was looking into this myself but i took the time to search and read up on a bunch of posts about it, which made it pointless for me to start some bullshit post so people could regurgitate(SP) info that has been discussed a hundred times before.

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